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Georgia on the Brink
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| January 23rd, 2014
| COS Project Team
Posted on 01/23/2014 12:59:18 PM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Gaffer
I made some points in #11. Can you refute them?
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:41:30 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
To: 12th_Monkey
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:42:21 PM PST
by
bfh333
("Hope"... "Change"... You better HOPE you have some CHANGE after the next 4 years!)
To: Jacquerie
Actually, I don’t need to refute them. I know all I need to know by the way you proponents here argue the merits and discuss the fears of normal people who are distrustful.
You can keep it and save it for someone you might convince here.
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:42:54 PM PST
by
Gaffer
To: Cicero
3/4 of the states still have to ratify any amendment coming out of the convention.
/johnny
To: kennyboy509
“This is a last resort sort of violence”
The “last resort” is violence as empowered by the 2A.
A COS end result could be the loss of 2A as we know it and a host of other new amendments glorifying a corrupt society.
The romantic notion that somehow all participants would have have a Mr. Smith Goes to Washington moment of constitutional integrity is a pipe dream.
On the other hand if the point of having a COS is to push the country into such division that violence ensues, then, that’s what we’ll have. We are headed there at some point anyway.
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:49:32 PM PST
by
Rebelbase
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To: Gaffer; bfh333
The links in #22 from bfh333 are very informative. Check ‘em out. History will not treat well a people who gaff off the means to reestablish their freedoms.
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:50:37 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
To: Cicero
It would indeed be viewed by many to be a very close call, even if we were looking at traditional political issues. But, we are not.
Given what you have accurately described as:
...current gangsters [many of whom are clearly anti-Americans] are in charge. Too many crooked judges. And a crooked Justice Department. And crooks in charge of the Senate, the White House, and, Im afraid, the House.
(plus, I will add open borders and voting registration of anyone who can produce a local utility bill, voter fraud, etc. ad nausea)
- is it not possible we have already passed the "soft" tipping point?
I for one, would rather do what is necessary to defend the Constitution rather than leave it to my sons and grandsons.
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:51:02 PM PST
by
frog in a pot
(We are all "frogs in a pot" now. How and when will we real Americans jump out?)
To: Rebelbase
We are headed there (violence) at some point anyway. If we are headed for violence anyway, there cannot, as I said in #11, be any harm done from a state amendment convention.
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:53:51 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
To: Baynative
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:54:36 PM PST
by
Publius
("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
To: Jacquerie
how many states are considering this?
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:55:20 PM PST
by
12th_Monkey
(One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
To: Repeal The 17th
Other posters have given a reasoned argument why it may be a bad idea.
What argument do you have that the fears are unfounded? I’d like to know.
Without opposing information, I would be scared to let any old amendments in. My gosh - think how bad it could be!
To: Jacquerie
So, what’s on your mind?
;^)
To: Cicero
I am also opposed, as long as the current gangsters are in charge. Too many crooked judges. And a crooked Justice Department. And crooks in charge of the Senate, the White House, and, Im afraid, the House. Said gangsters, judges, DOJ, senate, house, La Casa Blanca are not invited to a state amendment convention. The framers designed it that way.
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:58:13 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
To: bfh333
again, I'm playing devils advocate here: Path 2: o Step 1: Two-thirds of state legislatures (34 states) ask for Congress to call a convention for proposing amendments. o Step 2: States send delegates to this convention, where they can propose amendments to the Constitution. o Step 3: Three-fourths of the states (38 states) ratify an amendment approved by the convention for proposing amendments, either by their legislatures or special ratifying conventions. What keeps hard core lib states like California, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia to name a few, to come in and subvert the process and place their own liberal amendments?
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posted on
01/23/2014 1:59:30 PM PST
by
12th_Monkey
(One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
To: Jacquerie; All
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posted on
01/23/2014 2:04:00 PM PST
by
Jane Long
(While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
To: Jacquerie
Said gangsters, judges, DOJ, senate, house, La Casa Blanca are not invited to a state amendment convention. The framers designed it that way. The Indiana State senator David Long - on Glenn's show today - explained that process very clearly.
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posted on
01/23/2014 2:07:08 PM PST
by
Jane Long
(While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
To: 12th_Monkey
2 things... The COS will decide on a process for getting amendments approved and out to the states AND no matter what is proposed by a whacky, liberal state, it would have to be ratified by 38 (3/4) of the states...
So if CA decided that they wanted a 2A repeal, it would FIRST have to get through the COS amendment process (unlikely) but IF IT DID, are there 38 states to adopt AND vote yes?
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posted on
01/23/2014 2:07:20 PM PST
by
bfh333
("Hope"... "Change"... You better HOPE you have some CHANGE after the next 4 years!)
To: Principled
Post #11.
There is no guarantee. The Left has had its way with our republic for 101 years. We have the peaceful means to reverse the hard tyranny.
Obama, his courts and administrative bureaucrats make law, not the congress. The counterrevolution to ours of 1776 is complete.
Because of the downwind effects of the 17th amendment, elections have become proforma charades to make the gullible think the constitution is still in effect.
My gosh - think how bad it could be! It is here. Look around.
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posted on
01/23/2014 2:09:03 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
To: bfh333
I see. Worth a shot, DC is broken and out of control.
how many states so far?
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posted on
01/23/2014 2:10:33 PM PST
by
12th_Monkey
(One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
To: Jane Long
Thank you very much. I am listening to it now.
Senator Long is skillfully shepherding the process.
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posted on
01/23/2014 2:12:18 PM PST
by
Jacquerie
(Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
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