Doesn’t get much more “ham fisted” than the Waco debacle, and yet... Here we sit.
Everyone seems to be waiting for some big spark... Even as we act as our own wet blanket.
We are trodding the same ground as we have many times. If you think it is time to start the ball rolling go for it, others will either follow you or won’t. You aren’t in a position to chide others for something you aren’t willing to do yourself.