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How to Disarm America.

Step One Mandatory Gun Registration.

Step Two Make it illegal to gift guns. (If its illegal to give someone a gun then guns can not be transferred to someone upon the death of the owner.)

Step Three wait for a Crisis and use it to end sales of guns to the general public.

1 posted on 01/22/2014 4:33:05 PM PST by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg
It's hard to fathom any legal basis to deny the gifting of a gun to a family member, a friend, etc.

but then again, it's still hard to fathom that muzzies, along with commies, are running the WH -

and that they own the Supremes

2 posted on 01/22/2014 4:40:23 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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So why, unlike voting, I have to produce an ID to buy a gun to exercise a Constitutional right?


3 posted on 01/22/2014 4:42:25 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I hope so. The Gift of a gun to a trained a responsible person is a great thing, perhaps a life saving event. The gift-gun; perfect for weddings, birthdays, college graduation or the senior relative who still has their upper body strength, and now lives in a questionable part of town.


4 posted on 01/22/2014 4:42:54 PM PST by lee martell
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I don’t know that the “gun” is what is at issue here. What if someone purchases a chronic alcoholic a car? What if someone purchases an anarchists’ cookbook for a muslim? What if someone purchases a dime bag for a pResident?
Where are the liabilities and who exactly is responsible for the giftee’s actions?


5 posted on 01/22/2014 4:45:30 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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all anti-gun crap aside, it is an interesting question, from a layman’s legal sense at least. Minors can’t purchase alcohol, for example, and it’s also illegal for adults to purchase and give booze to minors. An imperfect analogy, but that’s why I think it’s interesting.


6 posted on 01/22/2014 4:46:16 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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No mystery how this evil court will rule


8 posted on 01/22/2014 4:47:13 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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“...The decision stems from a 2009 case in which former police officer
bought a discounted gun and then sold it to his uncle...”
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I’m over 60.
Over the last 40 plus years I have given several guns as gifts
and I have been given several guns as gifts.
The federal government can not stop that unless they create a national gun registry.


9 posted on 01/22/2014 4:49:25 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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Just ban the 2nd Amendment already, some of us are bored and suffering from overabundant ammo fumes.


10 posted on 01/22/2014 4:50:45 PM PST by TheBigJ
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This is crazy. You cannot gift a gun?


12 posted on 01/22/2014 4:54:39 PM PST by DallasSun
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I already know the answer, regardless of what the black robed appointees say.

The answer is yes.


13 posted on 01/22/2014 4:58:08 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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“TO KEEP” MEANS “TO HAVE CONTROL OF”- WEBSTER`S DICTIONARY

TO CONTROL MEANS YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH IT.

THESE JUDGES ARE DOING A CLINTON TRYING TO DEFINE THE WORD “THE”

THROW THE BUMS OUT


15 posted on 01/22/2014 5:01:10 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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I’m sure John Roberts is there on the side of the Second Amendment. He can call it a “tax”.


16 posted on 01/22/2014 5:04:55 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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In the US Argument to the Supremes:
Under 18 U.S.C. 922(a)(6), it is unlawful “for any person in connection with the acquisition or attempted acquisition of any firearm or ammunition from a * * * licensed dealer * * * knowingly to make any false or fictitious oral or written statement * * * intended or likely to deceive such* * * dealer * * * with respect to any fact material to the lawfulness of the sale * * * under the provisions of this chapter.”
My bold above, on what I think is the key phrase. Somebody purchasing a gun, intending to transfer it to someone who was legally ineligible to own a firearm, would be in violation. Mr Alvarez legally purchased the gun and took possession. He subsequently sold it to his uncle, making the transfer through a licensed dealer, who would have had to run a background check on the uncle. Both he and the uncle were legally able to own a gun.
17 posted on 01/22/2014 5:05:43 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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They don’t need to bother. I already know it’s legal.


21 posted on 01/22/2014 5:06:07 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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An American tradition is a father giving his son his first gun. He teaches him hunting and fishing and within those GOD gifted marvels... he will turn him into a man.


22 posted on 01/22/2014 5:17:33 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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The Corrupts can decide whatever they want, I’m going to do whatever I want.


27 posted on 01/22/2014 5:23:01 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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“Step Three wait for a Crisis and use it to end sales of guns to the general public.”

Really? Do you think that the cowards in the ATF and FBI are combat-trained organizations that can disarm Americans? Site their training and presidential unit citation awards.

The alphabet federal fascist agencies, including the FBI, ATF, Secret Service and US marshals, are state-sponsored terrorist organizations. Their mission is to murder women and children and spread terror amongst the population.

These 50 IQ apes are not Rambos.


29 posted on 01/22/2014 5:25:00 PM PST by sergeantdave
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Laws are made to be broken. And in the case of this one if not properly ruled, will be broken. I will give, whatever I want, to who ever I want, if they are fit to hold it.

Eff Them. All of Them.


32 posted on 01/22/2014 5:32:05 PM PST by crz
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On consideration, the issue seems to be not that he bought the gun and gifted it to his Uncle, and not that he bought the gun and subsequently decided to sell it to his uncle, but that he bought the gun on behalf of his uncle, essentially using his uncle's money either because his uncle gave him the purchase price or because the uncle repaid the purchase price rather than paying as a purchase from him, in order to get his uncle a discount.

ATF Form 4473 asks in question 11a.: "Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form? Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual buyer, the dealer cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. (And then the form notes an exception for picking up a repaired firearm for someone else.)

I think what we got here is a technicality.

33 posted on 01/22/2014 5:39:39 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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Then only robots will have guns?


35 posted on 01/22/2014 5:43:34 PM PST by x
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