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1 posted on 01/22/2014 5:28:24 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

what was the first “stand your ground” case, if this is “another” one?


2 posted on 01/22/2014 5:32:03 AM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: TigerClaws
This wasn't "stand your ground", this was an elitist ex-cop with an Erik Cartman "Authoritah" complex.


3 posted on 01/22/2014 5:34:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: TigerClaws

They really want everything to be a Stand Your Ground case because many of them would of course therefore be “controversial”. Of course the goal is to eliminate SYG.


5 posted on 01/22/2014 5:36:02 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: TigerClaws

As was argued by the prosecution in the Zimmerman trial, you lose your self defense exception if you are the agressor.


6 posted on 01/22/2014 5:36:24 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: TigerClaws

We need to know the race of the shooter and the victim before we can decide on guilt. /s


10 posted on 01/22/2014 5:40:46 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: TigerClaws

Another case of TALKING TOO MUCH.

1. I saw a burglar on my security system.
2. I went to check on him.
3. He attacked me, while reaching in his waistband.
4. I feared for my life and fired.


11 posted on 01/22/2014 5:41:35 AM PST by G Larry
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Can you shoot someone in the back and call it self defense?


14 posted on 01/22/2014 5:51:43 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: TigerClaws

He jumped a fence and chased him? This is murder. This is NOT Stand Your Ground.


15 posted on 01/22/2014 6:05:27 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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This is going to be extremely hard to try in court, because the shooter made several very bad errors.

1) He pursued the perp after he had taken off. An extremely bad idea, both legally and tactically. Once they have left your personal area, you are not “defending”, you are “hunting”, in the eyes of the law.

2) Likewise, the number of bullets you can reasonably use once you have left your personal area drops drastically. In your area, you can empty your magazine, but on the hunt, if you use more than the minimum, the assumption is “intent to kill in the heat of anger.”

3) A terrible mistake was to flee then hide evidence after the fact, both the gun and the surveillance video recorder. That was a terrible mistake that will cost him plenty at trial.

4) Damning was that the perp had not actually done anything first. Peering through windows like a burglar is not a felony.

Adding it all up, I suspect the shooter will be convicted of some form of homicide.


16 posted on 01/22/2014 6:16:04 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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If you're chasing it's hard to claim you're standing your ground.

17 posted on 01/22/2014 6:18:00 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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The story reads kind of like a “Stand Your Ground” case to me.

A guy who wasn’t for certain at the time doing anything much wrong, except maybe looking in windows, was chased down by an aggressor, tried to stand his ground, and got shot.


20 posted on 01/22/2014 7:01:49 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: TigerClaws

...okay, check the race of each person in the episode. This will tell you whether or not the Obama buttlickers in the media will care.


21 posted on 01/22/2014 7:04:44 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: TigerClaws

“Another”?

Name the first one.

That wasn’t George Zimmerman’s defense.

So far it hasn’t been the theater shooter’s defense either.


22 posted on 01/22/2014 7:37:14 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: TigerClaws
This line from the story caught my attention:

And Smith, unlike Zimmerman, reportedly admitted to physically restraining the person he suspected at gunpoint.

Hmmmm - so it would seem that the author wants to imply that Zimmerman actually did this too, but just never revealed or admitted to it.

The accurate and unbiased way to contrast these cases, with regard to this point, would be to write:

And certainly one factor here, which was not present in Zimmerman's case, will be Smith's reported admission that he physically restrained the person he suspected at gunpoint.


24 posted on 01/22/2014 7:58:34 AM PST by zencycler
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