[P.O.E.]

“The Prisoner” TV series was based on the Panopticon State.

[RC one]

you’re either with them or against them.

[Uncle Miltie]

The NSA are a bunch of juvenile wankers who live in their mothers’ basement and are de-selected Beta “males.”

[gorush]

[Fai Mao]

I hope a lawyer reads this.

Any case that involved information gained via phone records or Email should be challenged. If the evidence came from NSA data then the case should be thrown out. In fact after the NSA has said this then it would appear to me that a LEO must prove that that the data did NOT come an NSA source.

Abolish this agency. Burn the records

[Graewoulf]

Obama say “FORWARD !”

People say “Seig Heil !”

[Starboard]

Now, Binney says that the U.S. has already become a full-blown police state

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Not to mention tyranny.

[arderkrag]

Now, Binney says that the U.S. has already become a full-blown police state.

Police state? Yeh, I was thinking about that while I went through the security checkpoint on my way to the state re-education center to turn in my unapproved propaganda. Got a tinfoil hat on you? Mine's blown off somewhere.

[Albion Wilde]

Ping...

[SampleMan]

I’ve long suspected that many amazingly lucky traffic stop drug busts weren’t lucky at all.

[NewHampshireDuo]

Ping for later

[cherry]

I've always thought that they collect all information and when they want to destroy someone's business, or political ambitions, they just have all this stuff at their command..

what I wonder about is do republicans have access or is it it strictly for democrats to use....or is it to the highest bidder....

I think Snowden is a hero.....imo....

[PapaBear3625]

“All of the information gained by the NSA through spying is then shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally “launder” the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way … and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges.”

Thought experiment: suppose police broke into your home without a warrant, while you were away, and saw things that make them decide they want to prosecute you. Would it now be legitimate for them to search for a pretext to get a warrant (eg, claim an informant said you have X, Y, Z in the house), kick in your door, and seize the items they illegally perused before?

[Berlin_Freeper]

NSA should profile Muslims.

[Paladin2]

Well, it's pretty that the "Public Servants" are NOT.

Tax Slaves, we've become.

[Paladin2]

Well, it's pretty clear that the "Public Servants" are NOT.

Tax Slaves, we've become.

[Alex Murphy]

"What happened to Dave Powers?"
"He lost."

[PowderMonkey]

“The main use of the collection from these [NSA spying] programs [is] for law enforcement."

Depends on your definition of law enforcement. Nothing they collect could be used in a court of law. 4th amendment strictures, criminal procedure, rules of evidence, chain of custody, stuff like that really complicates things. Now if you're just going to scoop folks up and "detain" them like a good old fashioned military junta...well, your good to go!

[BuffaloJack]

Has anyone done a return on investment analysis for this gargantuan data collection system?
I can’t imagine how much money several hundred acres of servers costs, but it can’t be cheap. Exactly how many terrorists has this allowed us to capture?

[Excellence]

But the accused has to prove it.