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An investigation by El Universal has found that between the years 2000 and 2012, the U.S. government had an arrangement with Mexico's Sinaloa drug cartel that allowed the organization to smuggle billions of dollars of drugs in exchange for information on rival cartels.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-government-and-the-sinaloa-cartel-2014-1#ixzz2qKJ4Pj9O

1 posted on 01/13/2014 4:03:40 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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Obama/Soetoro & Holder KNEW and ordered it ?


2 posted on 01/13/2014 4:04:13 PM PST by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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Lots of damning stuff popping up while the media waves the Chris Christie flag.


3 posted on 01/13/2014 4:04:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Thank you. This is a question that occurred to me recently, that if it was true that we were working with one of the cartels, giving them immunity in exchange for information on their rivals, and if it was true that we were running guns to “the cartel” as a supposed “investigation” that never achieved even one arrest...

Was the cartel we immunized the same cartel we armed?

And now it appears that the answer is “yes”.

It seems that the way to run drugs and guns with impunity is to call it an “investigation”. That way if investigators from rival law enforcement agencies run across it, you just tell them to back off, its federal. Back off, this is “deep cover” stuff. And that’s “billions” of dollars, with a “b”.


4 posted on 01/13/2014 4:10:23 PM PST by marron
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The District of Criminals just doing the job Americans won’t do.


5 posted on 01/13/2014 4:13:00 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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Rogue agency...


6 posted on 01/13/2014 4:13:12 PM PST by varmintman
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What was the “benefit” for the USA?


7 posted on 01/13/2014 4:17:37 PM PST by Yaelle
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I wonder what the Mexican government will think about this.

I doubt very much that the Ones’ administration consulted them on this operation.

8 posted on 01/13/2014 4:18:40 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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This brings to mind the story of General Gutierrez Rebollo, who gained fame for leading a bloody war against the Mexican cartels and was briefly appointed as Mexico’s drug czar based on his reputation.

And in fact he did lead a bloody war against the cartels. On behalf of another cartel. He spent the rest of his life in prison, just died a few days ago.


11 posted on 01/13/2014 4:24:35 PM PST by marron
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I don’t see why one utterly corrupt organization shouldn’t make a deal with another utterly corrupt organization to further their mutual utter corruption.

To even think of prohibiting such or even expecting that such should not occur seems utterly ridonkulous ;/


12 posted on 01/13/2014 4:25:09 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Wow. The Democrats must have been fueling their campaigns with drug money from Mexico.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 4:29:11 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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This just confirms that we are a narco-terrorist state.

Cat’s out of the ol’ bag.


16 posted on 01/13/2014 4:29:56 PM PST by SpaceBar
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We have had a war on drugs for almost 43 years.

When do we declare victory and go home?

Obviously, a lot of people are profiting handsomely in this so-called “war”, including a lot of people in DC.


17 posted on 01/13/2014 4:31:12 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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Of course, my question is, then why is this guy on trial? What happened to his immunity?


20 posted on 01/13/2014 4:39:32 PM PST by marron
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No bleep. Get rid of their profits and legalize the damn things for adults who want to be idiots.


21 posted on 01/13/2014 4:44:14 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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Zambada-Niebla's lawyer told the court that in the late 1990s, Castro struck a deal with U.S. agents in which Sinaloa would provide information about rival drug trafficking organizations while the U.S. would dismiss its case against the Sinaloa lawyer and refrain from interfering with Sinaloa drug trafficking activities or actively prosecuting Sinaloa leadership.

So, the Clinton administration evidently pocketed the first check. And Billy Jeff got the first shipment of quality coke...

24 posted on 01/13/2014 4:48:56 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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Let's call Fast and Furious what it is. State-sponsored terrorism.

On this side of the border it's violations of the RICO Act. In Mexico and Honduras it's state-sponsored terrorism.

What else would you call heavily arming international criminal syndicates within a foreign country wherein that country is in a death struggle with those syndicates?

Especially when it goes beyond thousands of assault rifles to include grenades, RPGs, shoulder fired rockets, anti-aircraft guns, night vision equipment, body armor and special deals to bring their drugs onto our soil with legal impunity?

Not to mention that the rip crew that killed BP Agent Brian Terry was there with DEA and FBI assistance and approval to attack and kill a rival cartel's smuggling crew.

Let's not leave out the DEA laundering millions of dollars for the drug cartels by setting up bank accounts for them that they otherwise couldn't do.

It's organized, it is spread through every Federal LEA and it violates numerous domestic laws and numerous statutes and treaties that deal with foreign nations. Yet none of it has been officially sanctioned. It's the FedGov acting like mafiosa.

DHS Complicit In Drug Cartel Human Trafficking

0bama, Holder and Hillary Clinton are all deeply involved in this and it is state-sponsored terrorism. These criminal thugs are dragging our country down to the level of Tehran and Pyongyang.

26 posted on 01/13/2014 5:07:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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I have been saying this from the beginning and people here dont want to believe it.
There is a reason Fast and Furious investigation went nowhere
Btw, all you really needed to do is see the plane used by the CIA in renditions after it crashed with Sinaloa cocaine to know what has been going on....

27 posted on 01/13/2014 5:07:49 PM PST by RummyChick
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This secret agreement killed that US Customs officer of ours down in Mexico:

How it works in Mexico is if cartels learn you have some business relationship with, lessay, the Sinaloa Cartel, then “this guy belongs to the Sinaloa...”

They’ll think that even if there’s no elaborate induction ceremony that they witness.

When non-Sinaloa cartels heard of GayMuzzie’s “no busts for intel on the other cartels”-arrangement, that meant US LEO’s seen down in Mexico were considered as, “WITH the Sinaloa Cartel”. As such, these non-Sinaloa cartelistas saw US officers as legitimate targets.

Let’s just say the Mexican mind (and especially the cartelista mind) is muuuch further down the conceptual road for understanding that the cop/criminal separation distance can be slight, ok...?

That is their daily bread and butter.

THAT is why they gunned down that guy from US Customs —he probably did not know about Barry’s secret BS and was probably still thinking his badge protected him.

Sorry, but, uh...Barry and the NightStalker basically killed him.


29 posted on 01/13/2014 5:12:47 PM PST by gaijin
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The War on Drugs is just great!

Sinaloa, led by Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, supplies 80% of the drugs entering the Chicago area and has a presence in cities across the U.S.

There have long been allegations that Guzman, considered to be "the world’s most powerful drug trafficker," coordinates with American authorities.

But the El Universal investigation is the first to publish court documents that include corroborating testimony from a DEA agent and a Justice Department official.

For politicians, drug warriors and drug dealers.

32 posted on 01/13/2014 5:23:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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The senior cartels need napalming more than they need immunity.


38 posted on 01/13/2014 6:06:32 PM PST by G Larry
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