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Health Care Plans Attracting More Older, Less Healthy People
New York Times ^ | JAN. 13, 2014 | ROBERT PEAR and MICHAEL D. SHEAR

Posted on 01/13/2014 1:54:33 PM PST by Second Amendment First

People signing up for health insurance through the Affordable Care Act’s federal and state marketplaces tend to be older and potentially less healthy, officials said Monday, a demographic mix that could cause premiums to rise in the future if the pattern persists.

But officials expressed optimism that more young people will sign up in the months ahead, calling it “solid, solid news” for the health care law. They said demand for insurance through the marketplaces was increasing sharply across all age groups and they said youth outreach will become more aggressive in the months ahead.

“We’re pleased to see such a strong response and heavy demand,” said Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services. “Among young adults, the momentum was particularly strong.”

Officials for the first time released basic demographic information about the people signing up for insurance. Of those who signed up in the first three months, 55 percent are age 45 to 64, officials said. Only 24 percent of those choosing a health insurance plan are 18 to 34, a group that is usually healthier and needs fewer costly medical services. People 55 to 64 – just below the age at which people qualify for Medicare -- represented the largest group, at 33 percent.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacareenrollment
But officials expressed optimism ...
1 posted on 01/13/2014 1:54:33 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

“Health Care Plans Attracting Older, Less Healthy People”

Well, DUH! And in other news, water is still wet...


2 posted on 01/13/2014 1:57:13 PM PST by Purrcival (Four more years of OBAMA??????????? I hope this country can survive.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Of those who signed up in the first three months, 55 percent are age 45 to 64, officials said. Only 24 percent of those choosing a health insurance plan are 18 to 34, a group that is usually healthier and needs fewer costly medical services. People 55 to 64 – just below the age at which people qualify for Medicare -- represented the largest group, at 33 percent.

Or put another way, 76% of the people signing up are 35 to 64.

3 posted on 01/13/2014 1:57:43 PM PST by kabar
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To: Second Amendment First

So more “subsidized” volunteers than “full-pay +” volunteers.

I don’t know who could have predicted this.


4 posted on 01/13/2014 1:58:03 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: kabar

And I think most are medicaid plans where they won’t be contributiong any premium dollars.


5 posted on 01/13/2014 1:59:00 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Second Amendment First

I’m older, I have a group health plan AND I WANT TO KEEP IT!!!!!


6 posted on 01/13/2014 1:59:01 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: Purrcival

Wasn’t FR talking about this long before and suddenly now MSM is making news about it?


7 posted on 01/13/2014 1:59:28 PM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Second Amendment First

But officials expressed optimism


But officials are delusional like the early 20th Century “scientific progessives”.


8 posted on 01/13/2014 2:01:08 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Second Amendment First

It’s okay: in a few years when the massive penalties kick in, the young will sign up.

They’ll have too.


9 posted on 01/13/2014 2:02:58 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Second Amendment First

doesn’t matter, any losses will be covered by the federal government with our tax dollars.

A big insurance bailout was written into Obamacare so it can’t fail.

The insurance companies could lose 1 trillion and it wouldn’t matter, they will just hand the government a bill for their losses.

We are screwed.


10 posted on 01/13/2014 2:03:36 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: SampleMan
Of those who signed up, about 54 percent are women and 46 percent are men. Nearly 80 percent of those who selected a plan qualified for federal subsidies to reduce their premiums, officials said.
11 posted on 01/13/2014 2:04:11 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

>> But officials expressed optimism ...

I’d like to express THEM.

It the way that one would express an olive to get the oil out.


12 posted on 01/13/2014 2:06:29 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: JSDude1

Hmmm, all “enrollees are older, less healthy” ....perfect subjects for the Death Panels.

For the first time I really feel a twinge of sadness for these people, that they NEED to sign up for such crap, and/or they are so vulnerable and stupid to do so.

Our government has no need for these people. Their healthcare will be costly and unaffordable. What else will our government do but make it so hard on them they’ll just give up.

I just truly DESPISE our government, and the liberals who have promoted this. Such a scourge on this country.


13 posted on 01/13/2014 2:07:36 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: SampleMan

How is it that the left can’t ever understand that this is going to happen with ALL of their policies?
The takers sign up in droves, those who pay for it will avoid it.

Maybe they do understand it, and that’s why they implement everything under the threat of force (government).


14 posted on 01/13/2014 2:08:05 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Second Amendment First
"“We’re pleased to see such a strong response and heavy demand,” said Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services. “Among young adults, the momentum was particularly strong.” "

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ~!!!!!

Now I can see why the puppet masters picked this good little Apparatchik functionary to run it.

Apparatchik /ˌɑːpəˈrɑːtʃɪk is a Russian colloquial term for a full-time, professional functionary of the Communist Party or government

15 posted on 01/13/2014 2:09:15 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Second Amendment First
People will sign up. Have you noticed all of the news reports about the "increase in deadly flu, one that is particularly dangerous for younger people"? Next you'll be seeing "news reports" about quarantined people and how expensive their health care was because they weren't insured, and couldn't get insurance one they had the flu.

People will be scared into signing up. And once they're in and use it, I wonder how easy it will be for them to drop out.

16 posted on 01/13/2014 2:09:34 PM PST by grania
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To: LibsRJerks

>> Our government has no need for these people.

Not so! The government needs the reliable VOTES of these recipients of government handouts. And the government isn’t above bribes to get them!

(And extortion if the bribes fail.)


17 posted on 01/13/2014 2:10:10 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: MrB
Was ANYONE (besides us) paying attention when they said that 7 million lost their policies already and 80 million more will lose them this year??
18 posted on 01/13/2014 2:10:44 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: LibsRJerks

Rubes! Daddy gubmint just was put in place as claimant #1 on any assets said enrollee had at death.


19 posted on 01/13/2014 2:13:02 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: Mr. K

Make no mistake, the people that Obamacare hurts are precisely the people that his administration WANTS to hurt.


20 posted on 01/13/2014 2:14:11 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Second Amendment First

Cant Øbama just let millions of immigrants into the country and pay taxes to offset the older versus younger citizens ?


21 posted on 01/13/2014 2:16:13 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: Mr. K
“We’re pleased to see such a strong response of lies,” said Kitty Sillybus, the secretary of excuses. “Among young adults, the momentum is momentous.”
22 posted on 01/13/2014 2:16:37 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First
Nearly 80 percent of those who selected a plan qualified for federal subsidies to reduce their premiums, officials said.

The reason it isn't 100%, is that some states require everybody to go through the exchange if they do not have employer coverage.

23 posted on 01/13/2014 2:21:06 PM PST by EVO X
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To: Second Amendment First
...People signing up for health insurance...

Signing up does not mean PAID. This administration is the most fraudulent in history, and the idiots in the media let them get away with the fraud.

24 posted on 01/13/2014 2:30:18 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Second Amendment First
For some reason, I initially read the title as "“Health Care Plans Attracting Older, Less Friendly People”.
25 posted on 01/13/2014 2:31:57 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Signing up does not mean PAID”

-Only white heterosexual men are required to pay


26 posted on 01/13/2014 2:35:31 PM PST by woodro43
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To: Tzimisce

no. they’ll just pay the penalties and move on. less expensive that way. how did the supreme court every find this racket to be a tax anyhow?


27 posted on 01/13/2014 2:44:15 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Second Amendment First; Purrcival; SampleMan

28 posted on 01/13/2014 2:44:52 PM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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To: 1Old Pro
And I think most are medicaid plans where they won’t be contributiong any premium dollars.

Lots of new Expanded Medicaid enrollees, true, but their funding source is entirely separate from the exchange policies (much of the funding is coming from cuts to Medicare Advantage and other programs). So, in other words, people buying policies on the exchanges are not the same people paying to subsidize the E.M. enrollees.

29 posted on 01/13/2014 2:45:53 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Well, it’s not like anybody could have predicted that.


30 posted on 01/13/2014 2:59:14 PM PST by informavoracious (Root for Obamacare and healthcare.gov failure!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Signing up does not mean PAID.

It also doesn't meant COVERED. It just means you're on a database.

31 posted on 01/13/2014 3:02:18 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Second Amendment First

These reports are from the Old Gray Hag therefore it is propaganda in its purest form.


32 posted on 01/13/2014 3:22:36 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: Tzimisce

Right now there is no way to collect the penalties except by taking them from tax refunds. And there are no criminal charges for not paying the penalties.


33 posted on 01/13/2014 3:23:07 PM PST by kabar
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To: Second Amendment First

I had to check to see if this was satire. Sadly, it’s not.


34 posted on 01/13/2014 4:43:14 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Second Amendment First
Adverse Selection was always the probable outcome which is why the ACA apparently protects the insurance companies from it. Taxpayers get the bill for this of course.
35 posted on 01/13/2014 4:54:10 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: kabar

Repeat after me, stupid liberals. Access does not mean health care. Access does not mean health care. Access does not mean health care. Access does not mean health care. The communists promised access to free health care and jobs for every man — and wound up delivering nothing at all.

Access is a lie and falsehood.


36 posted on 01/13/2014 5:07:42 PM PST by heye2monn
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To: Mr. K

Besides Pajama Boy, I’m not aware of young adults lining up en mass to send $300/month on a plan with over $6K in deductibles and double that deductible for out of network care.


37 posted on 01/13/2014 7:00:53 PM PST by matt04
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To: GOP Poet

The penalties are low....for the first couple of years.

After that, the fine becomes CRUSHING.


38 posted on 01/13/2014 7:11:24 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: SIRTRIS

Yes, FR was talking about this while the law was still being debated.


39 posted on 01/15/2014 9:32:31 AM PST by Purrcival (Four more years of OBAMA??????????? I hope this country can survive.)
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To: Second Amendment First

"Cloward-Piven!"


40 posted on 01/15/2014 9:37:32 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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