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What if Americans rebel against the Obamacare mandate?
Washington Examiner ^ | January 12, 2014 | Byron York

Posted on 01/13/2014 12:49:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: oblomov
"Yes, but "IF" the mandates collapse."

I don't think "IF" is the correct word. I think "WHEN" is the correct word. . . . .

21 posted on 01/13/2014 3:00:14 AM PST by DeaconRed (GOD: Please send us one more Ronald Reagan. Soon. Thanks Deacon Red. PS It ain't Christie. . .)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why can’t the states do as they did in the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions in 1797 to invalidate a Federal Law?


22 posted on 01/13/2014 3:03:17 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: iontheball

Actually, Medicare is not single payer. Medicare recipients can purchase private Medicare Advantage plans under part C (private insurance subsidized by the federal government). They can purchase unsubsidized supplemental insurance to get a better grade of care than avaialable through standard Medicare. Finally, there is Medicare Part D, the Rx drug program, which is subsidized but is entirely a set of private insurance plans.

The closest to single payer that exists in the US is Medicaid, not Medicare. Most of the Obamacare enrollments have been in Medicaid. Yes, this was by design. Medicaid is horrible- I wouldn’t put my worst enemy on it. It is indeed a single payer system insofar as a recipient can’t supplement the benefits with private plans or cash payment out of pocket.


23 posted on 01/13/2014 3:05:29 AM PST by oblomov
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To: iontheball

I don’t know if Insurance companies need be bankrupted; my impression is that they tried to jack prices higher than need be to take advantage of the coercive legislative cover Obamacare provides for their mega profit schemes. They’ll need to offer competitive pricing and moderate their deductibles in order to attract business.

Auto Insurance has coercive legislation forcing all those who own cars to have insurance but with a plethora of Insurance companies out there, the pricing has to be competitive and affordable.


24 posted on 01/13/2014 3:12:13 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Secret Societies are like Sasquatch, you never catch one but they do leave footprints!)
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To: AlexW

“Since I am immune to Obozocare I have no idea about the alternatives. There are many benefits to being an American, living offshore”


Yeah we hear this from you everytime. Yes, Alex you have bailed and ran away.

I bet you would squeal like a pig under a gate if they toke your SS benefits away?

Just sit there and collect your bennies with your tail between your legs until they come for your stuff then you can start squeeeeeeeling.


25 posted on 01/13/2014 3:19:08 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Anything and everything Americans can do to frustrate, undermine, and foil this unconstitutional law is justifiable.

And a whole pigsty full of Justice Roberts won’t make this catastrophe Constitutional.


26 posted on 01/13/2014 3:26:09 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How about having the majority of people in the U.S. legally rebelling against President Barack Obama, his entire administration, AND the Entire Left of, both, major U.S. political parties, at each and every political level, as well as rebelling against all pro-left judges, at each and every judicial level, too?


27 posted on 01/13/2014 3:28:02 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: oblomov

The insurance companies will be sucking tailpipe if the mandates collapse.


As well they should have been doing for a loooong time.


28 posted on 01/13/2014 3:36:39 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?..................... Enforce the Bill of Rights................... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: AlexW
Since I am immune to Obozocare I have no idea about the alternatives. There are many benefits to being an American, living offshore.

Lest you think the ocean between us will save you, understand something: This push for tyranny is worldwide. You will feel the lash, too.

29 posted on 01/13/2014 4:25:18 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Calling Judge Napolitano!


30 posted on 01/13/2014 4:27:57 AM PST by gattaca (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: vetvetdoug
Why can’t the states do as they did in the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions in 1797 to invalidate a Federal Law?

We in South Carolina are working hard to nullify nobamacare.

South Carolina Is About To Pass A Bill To Nullify Obamacare.

31 posted on 01/13/2014 4:28:27 AM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: Lazamataz

” This push for tyranny is worldwide. You will feel the lash, too.”
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Yes, but I am in my senior years. I expect to be six feet under when that day comes. At least I am not under Obumbo’s tyranny.
Still, I, along with my American neighbors, am immune to Obozocare. We have our own insurance here.
There is a group on FR that hate my guts because I am not there to share the pain. While I feel for them, I have my own life to live.


32 posted on 01/13/2014 4:39:36 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Spartan302

??? What have you been smokin’??? You live in Colorado???

;-)


33 posted on 01/13/2014 4:42:04 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: vetvetdoug

Too many political cowards up and down the government chain from local all the way up to D.C.


34 posted on 01/13/2014 4:55:23 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Any private individual or group that files suit will have it dismissed due to lack of standing. The elites have invented the no standing procedure to prevent the little people from using the courts to over turn or nullify laws that are in the interest of the elites.


35 posted on 01/13/2014 4:57:08 AM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: AlexW

Ignore the personal attacks. There are none so blind as those who choose not to see.

With the trainwreck coming, it’s prudent to be overseas or have the legal and economic means to be there at the drop of a hat (permanent residency or dual citizenship).


36 posted on 01/13/2014 5:17:03 AM PST by peyton randolph (Show me the man and I will find the crime. - Lavrenti Beria)
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To: oblomov
The CEOs need to do the honorable thing, jump!
37 posted on 01/13/2014 5:21:04 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Then there's little the IRS can d9o about it.

‘(2) SPECIAL RULES- Notwithstanding any other provision of law—
‘(A) WAIVER OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES- In the case of any failure by a taxpayer to timely pay any penalty imposed by this section, such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure.

(B) LIMITATIONS ON LIENS AND LEVIES- The Secretary shall not—
‘(i) file notice of lien with respect to any property of a taxpayer by reason of any failure to pay the penalty imposed by this section, or
‘(ii) levy on any such property with respect to such failure.’.

What the Obama-care law text REALLY says on IRS enforcement of the personal Mandate fine/tax

38 posted on 01/13/2014 5:22:46 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If only the government were run by the people and not the other way around.


39 posted on 01/13/2014 5:41:36 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Every time I see a younger so-called “adult” singing the praises of 0bama and 0bamacare, I make it a point of thanking them for subsidizing my health insurance. The strange part is that most of the young ignorant morons argue that they are not doing so!


40 posted on 01/13/2014 5:44:16 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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