[Cronos]

well, Nigel Farage's point of view is one extreme and the EC's point of view is another extreme.

A better one is to have a kind of wider Swiss confederation (like the old pre-Napoleonic Swiss confederation), where the constituent parts are fully independent, yet have common cause against outside aggressions. This was initially mooted post Napoleon by some guy whose name I can't remember now :) but the idea was a confederation of confederations Europe with entities clubbed together by common historical and linguistic bonds, so an Iberian confederation (Portugal, most of Spain bar Galicia, Basque and Catalan), a Langue-d'Oc federation with Catalan, Provence and Savoy, then a English area, a Celtic area (Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Galicia, Brittany) etc.

It was also mooted by ArchDuke Ferdinand as the United Central European state (to convert the Austro-Hungarian empire into this)

[mitch5501]

"It was also mooted by ArchDuke Ferdinand as the United Central European state"

Well that's comforting.

[az_gila]

well, Nigel Farage’s point of view is one extreme and the EC’s point of view is another extreme.

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Which parts of the UKIP web site are “extreme?

http://www.ukip.org/

[Gay State Conservative]

well, Nigel Farage's point of view is one extreme and the EC's point of view is another extreme.

I've spent a good deal of time listening to Nigel Farage...particularly the speeches he's made from the floor of the European Parliament (which are easily found on youtube).Farage is no more "extreme" than was Reagan or than is Governor Palin.