Posted on 01/07/2014 1:49:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Populating the mainstream media? HA. A more accurate comparison would be to Air American's 'talent'. Anyhow remember who they were?
Or Al Gore's Current... how are Arabs doing with that gig?
Does the right need someone like Maddow? The last thing we need is some self impressed narcissist like Maddow - a woman who believes 'attitude and eye rolls trumps thought. Nope, MSNBC's going the way of Air American and we need to stay out of their way.
The presence of the lamestream media abd the Rachel Maddows of the world is proof that the value-neutral free marketers have an incomplete picture. For leftist corporate misanthropes it is not ALL about profit and commerce and enhancing markets. It is first and foremost about the destruction of the human spirit, the eradication of Christianity, and inflicting fascism on the populace.
I have argued this with CATO-ites for decades until I am blue in the face, but they are mostly useful idiots who favor libertinism rather than libertarianism.
A fundamental flaw in the thinking of someone like Milton Friedman and Rush Limbaugh is their expectation that information can change peoples’ minds, that people can be persuaded by information.
Knowledge cannot move someone from a point of view that was not created by knowledge, any more than reason can change a perspective created by emotion.
Thomas Sowell is closer to the mark. People “think” the way they do based on their fundamental operating system. His book “Conflict of Visions” is perhaps the most insightful secular book I have ever read.
The only thing that can change that is pain, lots of close to the bone pain. Hence the aphorism, “A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality.” That might not be always true (I was born conservative and became oven more so over the past six decades) but for many it is true.
The short version is that you can’t use facts to talk a person out of an opinion they didn’t use facts to arrive at in the first place.
Hmmm. I get the sentiment. Putting aside my dislike for Maddow, I think there is soe merit to the position. We need to get rid of the clowns, (Beck, Limbaugh) and get someone who thoughtfully expounds upon the virtues of Conservatism. While polls make it clear people are not fond of Obama, no one is moving to Conservatism. Quite the contrary. We have been preaching to the choir with rabble-rousers WAY too long. I can’t think of anyone particularly that we have that can do it, but between Becks tin foil hat strangeness and Limbaugh’s “Liberal’s suck and you know it” (well of course I do(, we are going nowhere fast. This is a dead end proposition for the long term.
Well, when I was young, in my 20s, I was pretty liberal and believed government could solve a lot of problems. As I got older and had children (and I confess, listened to Rush) I came to be more conservative. So I think information can and does change people’s minds.
I would submit that, while you might've been "pretty liberal", you weren't yet A Liberal.
Because one of the identifying characteristics of A Liberal is the abject inability to even hear -- much less comprehend -- a conflicting point of view.
Obviously, your mind was still open to contrary views. Thus, you were demonstrably not A Liberal.
Conclusion arrived at thru years of observation of my sis, the social worker -- who is A Liberal. Her standard response to any questioning of her liberal beliefs: "I don't want to talk about it!"
I'd be surprised if anybody who wasn't already very a convinced liberal or leftist or whatever said that Rachel Maddow made a convert out of himself or herself.
And people on the right who want a Maddow are probably part of a very small media elite circle.
Unless they're using "Rachel Maddow" to mean something like "Rush Limbaugh Twenty Years Ago" -- a powerful new media presence.
And sure, any political force could use one of those.
We’ve got Laura Ingraham....classy, hard right and with facts rather talking points handed out by political hacks.
LOL I worked in Carter’s campaign and voted for Clinton - twice. Perhaps I was just plain stupid and now I am not as stupid. Clinton was really who turned me against dems. And now dems are just so far left that I can’t imagine ever voting for one.
I guess we can try to influence the media, but it’s going to take a long, long time and you’re going to have to fight the establishment types.
Lyndon Johnson -- with Viet Nam, the War on Poverty and its subjection of the blacks and creation of the welfare state.
Jimmy Carter -- with rampant inflation and mute acceptance of US decline.
Bill Clinton -- who single-handedly coarsened the culture and set a new standard for politicial corruption, all the while ignoring national security issues -- which brought us 9/11.
And, now, Barack Obama.
Not that the Republican presidents during this period -- save Reagan --have covered themselves in glory. In comparison, Nixon, Ford, Bush & Bush did little to reverse the trends established by the Democrats.
In retrospect, it hasn't been a good fifty years for the country...
Rachel is very intelligent.
Really? She didn’t come across that way on her WRSI morning show; yapping endlessly about her “partner” and her doggy. Instead of playing music. Yap, yap, yap, yap, yap ad nauseaum.
It was vomitous.
Rush Limbaugh tried to buy an NFL team, remember what happened?
Rush Limbaugh tried to buy a tiny little single-digit minority interest in an NFL team, remember what happened?
FIFY
Yes, I remember the big lie tactic the left used. (slavery, go ahead DENY IT!)
Conclusion arrived at thru years of observation of my sis, the social worker -- who is A Liberal. Her standard response to any questioning of her liberal beliefs: "I don't want to talk about it!"When I say "I feel for you," I know whereof I speak: Sister lifelong employee at an NPR station located on a college campus. Depending on what I say, I am stupid, evil, or both but have no valid point of view.
I understand.
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