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To: Colonel_Flagg
The prophetic pronouncements made in the 1970's about the "hidden" gay agenda that were almost universally poo-poo'd, are in fact true. They have gone WAY beyond "don't make illegal what we do in private as consenting adults" to what we have now - a full court press on political rights and government mandates to normalize sodomy legally and in government education. Previews of coming attractions: the gay agenda pushing to take down heterosexual marriage and families - all prophesied in the 70's debate about anti-sodomy laws.

Can a society allow sodomy in private between two consenting adults and still affirm that it is a deviant behavior to be eschewed and certainly not given any special political or legal status? A society that puts freedom first will have these kinds of challenges. But a healthy society, especially one that is spiritually healthy, can meet those challenges.

A healthy society that puts individual freedom first will not have intrusive laws about licensing marriage or business. Government will stay small and keep its nose to the grindstone of protecting our freedoms without these endless entanglements we have now when government goes outside its constitutional bounds.

47 posted on 01/06/2014 12:25:08 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
(3) That leaves, to distinguish the rock-solid, unamendable disposition of Roe from the readily overrulable Bowers, only the third factor. “[T]here has been,” the Court says, “no individual or societal reliance on Bowers of the sort that could counsel against overturning its holding … .” Ante, at 16. It seems to me that the “societal reliance” on the principles confirmed in Bowers and discarded today has been overwhelming. Countless judicial decisions and legislative enactments have relied on the ancient proposition that a governing majority’s belief that certain sexual behavior is “immoral and unacceptable” constitutes a rational basis for regulation. See, e.g., Williams v. Pryor, 240 F.3d 944, 949 (CA11 2001) (citing Bowers in upholding Alabama’s prohibition on the sale of sex toys on the ground that “[t]he crafting and safeguarding of public morality … indisputably is a legitimate government interest under rational basis scrutiny”); Milner v. Apfel, 148 F.3d 812, 814 (CA7 1998) (citing Bowers for the proposition that “[l]egislatures are permitted to legislate with regard to morality … rather than confined to preventing demonstrable harms”); Holmes v. California Army National Guard 124 F.3d 1126, 1136 (CA9 1997) (relying on Bowers in upholding the federal statute and regulations banning from military service those who engage in homosexual conduct); Owens v. State, 352 Md. 663, 683, 724 A. 2d 43, 53 (1999) (relying on Bowers in holding that “a person has no constitutional right to engage in sexual intercourse, at least outside of marriage”); Sherman v. Henry, 928 S. W. 2d 464, 469—473 (Tex. 1996) (relying on Bowers in rejecting a claimed constitutional right to commit adultery). We ourselves relied extensively on Bowers when we concluded, in Barnes v. Glen Theatre, Inc., 501 U.S. 560, 569 (1991), that Indiana’s public indecency statute furthered “a substantial government interest in protecting order and morality,” ibid., (plurality opinion); see also id., at 575 (Scalia, J., concurring in judgment). State laws against bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality, and obscenity are likewise sustainable only in light of Bowers’ validation of laws based on moral choices. Every single one of these laws is called into question by today’s decision; the Court makes no effort to cabin the scope of its decision to exclude them from its holding. See ante, at 11 (noting “an emerging awareness that liberty gives substantial protection to adult persons in deciding how to conduct their private lives in matters pertaining to sex” (emphasis added)). The impossibility of distinguishing homosexuality from other traditional “morals” offenses is precisely why Bowers rejected the rational-basis challenge. “The law,” it said, “is constantly based on notions of morality, and if all laws representing essentially moral choices are to be invalidated under the Due Process Clause, the courts will be very busy indeed.” 478 U.S., at 196.2
~ Justice Scalia in his Lawrence v. Texas dissent, joined by Chief Justice Rehnquist and Justice Thomas. Truer words were never written. (Emphasis mine.)
48 posted on 01/06/2014 12:54:13 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: PapaNew
Previews of coming attractions: the gay agenda pushing to take down heterosexual marriage and families - all prophesied in the 70's debate about anti-sodomy laws.

Think of the property damage when people will have to rip their "marriage equality" bumper stickers off their cars.

But it would shut up Chris Kluwe. There's that.

In seriousness, your conclusion is beautifully stated. Thank you.

49 posted on 01/06/2014 1:13:52 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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