I'm with INVAR...I submit it is far, far later than you think.
After all, a comfortable couch negates the burden of most shackles.
Both of you offer an opinion but neglect to offer any evidence in an historical context help prove your contention. But I understand your point. On the other hand both of you seem to support my conclusion, written on another blog, that the dems and GOPe are engaged in psyops against the American people with the goal being to beat them down mentally such that they believe that there is nothing they can do electorally to avoid the coming dictatorship such that the candidates that would oppose them will never get elected. I hope you guys have not fallen into that trap and simply given up on an electoral solution. If you have then their psyops are obviously working. Please tell me that’s not case.