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To: fatman6502002
I said praying and quoting the Bible is not a strategy that will restore the Republic.

How sad. That was the strategy that created it in the first place.

It will only be restored through the ballot box or force of arms.

The ballot box is null and void. Go with the latter, but without God, that too will be a moot effort.

Like I said you need to live in the reality of our physical world.

One where the ballot box in the aftermath of a MarxoFascist velvet coup is a viable option? And you are going to lecture me about reality??

The founding fathers and the minuteman did not win because they prayed,they won because they fought harder, had better ideas and better strategy.

How woefully ignorant. No wonder you still think the ballot box is viable. As if the strength of men alone forged the Republic, or could save it.

The democratic world did not win WWII because we prayed, we won because free men fight to live and those whom are ruled fight to die for their fuehrer or their emperor.

If that is all it takes - and prayer is ineffectual if not obsolete in your worldview - then what you will have is anarchy and chaos followed by brutal dictatorship followed by collapse and ruin. Thus is the fate of all Republics before us and for the same reason you think we won WWII.

If the dictatorship were already here as you suggest, then we would not be having this conversation on the internet,

Ahh… so you want to wait until there are gulags, mass graves and North Korean-styled iron fisted rule before we can declare a dictatorship to be in effect. How many 'executive actions' and EO's has Obama decreed without so much as a peep in opposition? How many laws has he just decided to ignore and how many changes to law has he made by his own decree?

You sure you want to wait until it is self-evident to Leftists before we agree a tyranny/dictatorship has been established?

You are just stubborn and an absolutist who really seems somewhat detached from reality.

Right. And voting (your suggestion BTW) will make all the difference in the world. What were you saying about reality again?

It is obvious you did not read my original post carefully enough,

Right. That's why I quoted you verbatim and took issue with the tactics. Here, let's refresh: ‘There is still time to stop the impending dictatorship through the ballot box’

Did you not type that statement? What did I not understand in that statement? I simply replied it is much later than you think. The ballot box is no longer a viable option if you were paying any attention last year.

What exactly is your strategy besides praying?

I already stated it very clearly: Pray, Repent, Prep and ready for war for when they make that last mistake. We are down to the last box afforded us, but most are infected with a fatal case of normalcy bias. That would explain the continuing practice of insanity to suggest preventing where we have already arrived is to go vote for one of two Leftists offered by the Ruling Class as a solution and prevention of tyranny.

I am not responsible for the sins of society.

That is where your biblical and historical ignorance is showing. We are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for losing the culture to the hedonists, for if we had not lost our culture - we would not have lost our liberties to Leftists.

You act as if pj boy speaks for all mankind

He speaks for the MarxoFascists. He tells us a truth about his agenda apparently you do not want to believe or consider.

and that shows the weakness of your arguments, which by the way, with all due respect are nuts.

Then kiss it all goodbye my FRiend. For if the arguments I made are nuts - then our foundations were nuts to begin with because I espouse the same arguments the Founders and Framers did.

God first, then duty to country to uphold the liberties God granted as a gift, but working within the system of tyrants to effect change is a fools errand.

29 posted on 01/03/2014 4:00:06 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

And I suspect you believe that the earth is only 6000 years old and that humans lived alongside dinosaurs. I am not making spiritual arguments, I am making realistic ones based upon the fact that we live in the physical world. You can delude yourself and pretend that the revolution was won because the Founding Fathers prayed harder than the British all you want but that will not make it the truth. One of the hallmarks of the leftist mind is the fact that they believe so much that isn’t true. Think about it. Thank you very much for your feed back but we are at a loggerheads while you refuse to accept reality and continue to argue spiritualism while I want to argue reality. Unfortunately this has become a waste of time. If you think the time has come for force of Arms then let you, wrapped in God’s armor, begin it. I’ll wait on that option until I believe all other remedies have failed, after all the Constitutional remedies were given us by the Founders I am sure because of their belief in Divine Providence so I think it best to follow those before we start creating the killing fields right here in the USA.
The Founders religious views and belief in God was one of the inspirations, and yes the major inspiration for their actions but it was their actions and the actions of thousands of others that secured our independence.


30 posted on 01/03/2014 4:59:44 PM PST by fatman6502002
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