Skip to comments.VISTA workers told their U.S. health plan fails test (unanticipated consequence of ObamCare)
Posted on 12/27/2013 12:56:13 AM PST by tellw
WASHINGTON The Obama administration has told Vista volunteers and other AmeriCorps workers that their government-provided health coverage does not measure up to the standards of the new health care law, and that they may be subject to financial penalties unless they obtain insurance elsewhere.
The notice has surprised and worried workers in AmeriCorps, the federal community service program that is often described as a domestic version of the Peace Corps.
Mary Strasser, the director of AmeriCorps Vista program, described the changes in a bulletin to members on Dec. 16.
The coverage provided by the agency the AmeriCorps Health Care Benefits Plan does not satisfy the individual responsibility requirement of the Affordable Care Act, which takes effect on Jan. 1, Ms. Strasser said. Accordingly, she said, Vista members may be required to pay a tax penalty if they do not have other coverage and do not receive an exemption.
The impact on community service workers is another unanticipated consequence of the health care law, which is making coverage available at little or no cost to many uninsured people but disrupting coverage for others who already had it.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
The Three Stooges couldn’t have designed a worse program than Obamacare. The sheer nerve of Obama, Dems and the Leftist who wrote this abomination of a law thinking they were up to the task is amazing.
There has been a lot written over the lack of any business sense within the inner-circle of the White House. If you look at the fifteen-odd characters who advise the President....none have real diplomatic experience, business experience, military experience, or banking experience. Maybe this would work out, if they asked and accepted advice...but that has never been shown to work with this unique team.
It’s kinda like Microsoft firing all of their top-level folks, and then hiring college students with degrees in political science to run the operation. They talk a lot and appear on TV....but they have no knowledge to base decisions.
I can’t think of any reason why I’d hire these characters for a foundation or real job after their White House stint. They mostly will just write books that no one buys.
This country would be better run by firing the politicians and selecting the top spots in the Obama Regime and Congress by picking random names from the phone book.
Gee, I could have had a V-8!
I would agree, by summer of 2014 is the point where the economy feels the pain. This deductible business....where you owe the first $6,000....is where you start to deny vacations, new cars, and limit college tuition. There’s a mini-recession by the close of 2014 for the nation. Might as well prepare for that bit of bad news.
I’d rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University.
William F. Buckley, Jr.
I remember reading about the “planned economy” in the USSR.
No price or market feedback so counted on different “metrics”.
So shoe output was measured in total shoes produced.
This is why you end up with 1 style, all small sizes since they take less material.
Glass was measured in square feet produced. So its rolled thin and most of it breaks before it can be installed.
Wheat is measured in metric tons harvested. So what if most of it rots before it gets to market. Etc etc etc...
The just seem to never learn....
I recall the USSR ran out of toilet paper and matches, because no one remembered to order them to be manufactured.
They are just learning about this now? Interesting that government insurance doesn’t meet government mandated requirements.
I doubt Obama has an empathic bone in his body. As a supposed community organizer, you’d think he would at least get this one right.
Not to worry. I feel another “exemption” coming.
TRANSLATION "Frankly, its a big problem. Sasha and
Malia say the Sidwell school crowd would rather have
unprotected sex with Adam Levine than enroll in healthcare.
HERE'S ANOTHER FINE MESS BOOBAMBA GOT US INTO .....insurers calculated premiums on the expectation that relatively healthy folks already buying insurance privately would be buying on the O/Care exchanges. The insurers are not happy about Obama's latest delay --- the 14th, thus far---- announced Friday before he flew off to Hawaii. Insurers will probably ask for more money via O/Care's cockamamie risk corridors provision......
That means taxpayers will subsidize more and more of this boondoggle:
<><> insurance companies,
<><> those hustled onto Medicaid (the O team ditched the Asset Test),
<><>subsidies for enrollees who "say" it's unaffordable,"
<><>BIG BUCKS for little-used state exchanges, AND,
<><> $$hundreds of millions for Michele's dumbo Princeton pal's flopola website.
INCONVENIENT FACTOID As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act:
OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if youve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All Im going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. Youll still have choice of doctor.
Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.
DEMOCRATS CHIME IN:
SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it. (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)
SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: We believe and we stand by this if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward. (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): If you like your insurance, you keep it. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)
SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it. (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)
SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it. (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)
SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term grandfathered plans. If you have a plan you like existing policies you can keep them. we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in. (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)
THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve. (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)
SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want. (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)
SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you. (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)
SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, were going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want. (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)
SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it (Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)
SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)
SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change. (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)
SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): People who have insurance theyre happy with can keep it We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance theyre happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage. (Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired, National Journals Congress Daily, 6/18/09)
SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): If you like the insurance that you have, youll be able to keep it. (MSNBCs Hardball, 12/16/09)
SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): [I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have. (CNNs Newsroom, 10/22/09)
SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): If you like what you have, you get to keep it Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans wont have to change. If you like what you have, you get to keep it, he said. (Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says, The Record, 6/19/09)
SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): [E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it. (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)
SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it. (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)
SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): I want people to know, the Presidents promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)
SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it. (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): If you have coverage you like, you can keep it, says Sen. Sanders. (Sick And Wrong, Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)
SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it My understanding is that if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. under every scenario that Ive seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it. (Sen. Shaheen, Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire, Accessed 11/13/13)
SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairmans remark is is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. Thats a strong commitment. Its clear in the bill I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. Thats the bottom line for me. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)
SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): If you like your coverage, youll be able to keep it, Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger. (Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care, The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)
SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It wont. If you like your current plan, you can keep it. (What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress, Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)
SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): ..it honors President Obamas programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything. (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)
Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."
FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8I
President Obama -- not exactly leading by example -- was finally signed up forObamacare in a symbolic move showing support for his own law. But, Fox News' Ed Henry reported Monday, the healthcare.gov system couldn't verify his identity, so his staff had to sign him up in person.
The reason, Ed Henry said, is that Obama's personal information is not in particular government data bases. "So healthcare.gov could not actually verify his identity, oddly enough," Henry said.
So Obama himself did not sign up for healthcare. Instead, an official told Politico that his staff went to the D.C. exchange in person to sign him up.
Like some Americans, the complicated nature of the presidents case required an in-person sign-up, the official said. As youd expect, the presidents personal information is not readily available in the variety of government databases HealthCare.gov uses to verify identities.(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
DOG AND PONY SHOW---OBAMA's AIDE ENROLLED OBAMA AND NOT THE OBAMA FAMILY B/C TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING BIG BUCKS FOR THEIR INSURANCE.
Obama himself did not sign up for healthcare---his staff went to the D.C. exchange in person to sign up Obama.
STRANGE BUT TRUE Seems Obama's personal information is not readily available in the variety of government databases HealthCare.gov uses to verify identities.........
(NOTE---enrolling Obama w/ fraudulent documents, using several identities, stolen SS nos, and falsifying govt documents is a felony--should be investigated ASAP).
Under Communism, if you order 3,000 pounds of shoes, you get one, 3,000 concrete shoe. If you order 3,000 shoes, you get 3,000 left shoes, size 7. If you order 3,000 pairs of shoes, you get 6,000 shoes, one style, one color, one size (e.g. black, women's Mary Janes, size 7). Under a Communist economy, you met the quota, exactly as specified. No variances tolerated.
MO is looking pretty rough in that pic. I mean she appears to be exhausted and scared.
Hearing this for some volunteer fire departments too.
When drafting the law, the DEMs used the expert legal services of:
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