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1 posted on 12/20/2013 3:28:07 AM PST by tobyhill
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We do need a list on FR of all the exemptions and changes.

Will also be nice to install an HHS secretary that would use the powers of the secretary to gut 0care. LOL

But Sebelius will be there until she’s not... or 0bama is out of office. But she won’t be fired.


2 posted on 12/20/2013 3:34:58 AM PST by Principled
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Kinda brings us back to go....


3 posted on 12/20/2013 3:35:44 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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The real problem is them telling you what has to be included in your policy...including funding abortions...


4 posted on 12/20/2013 3:37:18 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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The administration also said people who had their plans cancelled could get a scaled back catastrophic plan, which has more limited benefits than those included in other Obamacare health plans.

Which is the kind of plan that I had cancelled...(sigh)

I refuse, I just refuse to go through that damn website or some navigator to be able to get health care or government insurance!

5 posted on 12/20/2013 3:39:45 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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Millions of Americans who had their health plans cancelled will be exempt from the Obamacare individual mandate, the administration said Thursday – a surprise move that comes just before Monday’s deadline to sign up for coverage starting Jan. 1.

The administration also said people who had their plans cancelled could get a scaled back catastrophic plan, which has more limited benefits than those included in other Obamacare health plans.

So the millions of Americans who had their plans cancelled will be exempt from paying their medical bills?

People can buy catastrophic insurance coverage that Obamacare outlawed? From whom? What insurance company would sell it now?

The Obama administration is flailing. This is way beyond stupid.

6 posted on 12/20/2013 3:40:30 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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Tick, tock, tick, tock........

The Obama admin said scaled-back catastrophic plans
w/ more limited benefits than in other O/care plans
would be availabe to those w/ cancelled plans.

Mmmmmmm......good ol' Chicago Valerie musta burned the
midnight oil to come up with that one....as the O/Care
doomsday clock keeps ticking away.

7 posted on 12/20/2013 3:41:52 AM PST by Liz
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So there are Republican Senators objecting to this change? If they were on our side, the proper response would that this is a good first step. The next two steps would be to make the "catastrophic only" option available to everyone and to drop the mandate.

Let the insurance companies and their buddies, the feds, decide what to do with all of the leeches who want something for nothing with their subsidized Obamacare and/or their extreme number of ailments and/or their wanting a treatment or a drug for everything.

8 posted on 12/20/2013 3:42:38 AM PST by grania
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If it's not so important for all of these entities to be exempted, then the obvious conclusion is it is not about health care but about power and the power to enslave and control

zero realizes he's probably "accomplished" all he can, so he'll dig in his heels snf take the beating.

9 posted on 12/20/2013 3:45:38 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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WOW - this is just working out great!

Did the liberals like Pelosi and Barry actually think this was going to work - that everyone was going to fall in line and drink the Kool-Aid?

Why is the Democratic Party still allowed in the US - they should be kicked out with the illegal aliens and welfare junkies back to some other nation and let them make their own little fairy tale utopia!


11 posted on 12/20/2013 3:48:29 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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So now, the serfs can buy insurance that doesn’t meet Obamacare standards or not buy insurance at all. So this is back at the beginning, except for the wholesale destruction of the insurance and health care industries and the disruption of millions of lives - which was the purpose to begin with.


12 posted on 12/20/2013 3:51:29 AM PST by Truth29
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These Obama victims might not be able to get back their now non-existing old policies or, in some cases, any coverage at all but at least maybe they won't have the IRS coming after them for the fines/taxes/penalties/fees (or whatever they're calling it this week) for not having insurance.

Queer how Americans have become so uncharacteristically submissive, so passively compliant to a government that rules by diktat and places itself above a law they created for the serfs. Obama doesn't even pretend to consult Congress anymore before altering the deal.

13 posted on 12/20/2013 3:54:23 AM PST by stormhill
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Before the end of the year, they will offer people a one year waiver.


14 posted on 12/20/2013 3:57:02 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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They are doing everything they can to avoid them being wiped out in 2014, but the damage has been done.


15 posted on 12/20/2013 3:57:21 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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This man is beyond stupi and apparently surrounds himself with stupid people. Insurance isn’t like slapping a price tag in juice. Policies have to be worked out and approved by the state at least a year ahead of time.

Good God help us all.


20 posted on 12/20/2013 4:03:45 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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Are insurance companies supposed to write these non-existent policies and sell them to millions of Americans in the next ten days?

Impossible. It’s like putting a tire patch on the hole in the Titanic


22 posted on 12/20/2013 4:06:13 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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23 posted on 12/20/2013 4:06:27 AM PST by Diogenesis
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Seems to be, the environmentalist wing of the fanatical liberal brigade should be outraged at the paper that was wasted in crafting Obamacare. There should have been only 1 page that says, “it is now the law of the land that there shall be a mandate called the Affordable Care Act. This law shall be determined by the President at a later date and depending on his popularity.”
25 posted on 12/20/2013 4:27:42 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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If we had not impeached Clinton over lying about sex we could have started to make a political case for starting impeachment hearings for the continued violation of the law. Thanks to our over-reach back then we can’t do that now.

Not saying it was wrong to do it then but it certainly makes it a lot harder now to utilize that step.


27 posted on 12/20/2013 4:39:19 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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Oh, so now ObamaCare is happy to promote all those sleazy, “substandard policies” they were attacking a few weeks ago when millions of these catastrophic coverage plans were being canceled. In other words, they were lying about that too. Pathetic.


28 posted on 12/20/2013 4:40:38 AM PST by txrefugee
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" Obama heads to Hawaii on Friday for a two-week vacation but told his staff that he expects frequent updates."

Awwww.......Poor baby. Has to interrupt his well earned two week vacation. Meanwhile, millions have lost their health insurance directly because of his policies. There will be dead citizens because of his law, due to lack of proper health care. It's more important, though, that Obama gets the proper press coverage of his "toned body on the Hawaiian beaches".

30 posted on 12/20/2013 4:52:49 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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