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Nobody said it was causation. It is more correlation with the extremes of feminism of recent decades.
1 posted on 12/17/2013 6:50:51 AM PST by neverdem
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Perhaps what they have in common is a liberal, shrewish, anti-male, mother who drove the father away and so demasculinzed each of her sons that acting in a crude and violent manner was the only way the sons knew how to “act like a man” since that is what the mother taught the son a man is.

But, by all means, blame the missing father.


2 posted on 12/17/2013 6:55:19 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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Disconnect with fathers is a major factor for many problems that young people face. This is why Mal. 4 says the ministry of Elijah, when he comes again, is to reunite fathers with their children.


3 posted on 12/17/2013 6:56:39 AM PST by lurk
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Finally, someone looking at real root causes rather than 'delusional hysterical liberal woman' fantasies.
4 posted on 12/17/2013 6:57:28 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: neverdem

The bigger correlation is a leftist mind-set and no respect for life.


5 posted on 12/17/2013 6:57:37 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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This article is spot on, although most certainly the Leftists will scream that it is somehow impolitic to say it out loud.

I would take this article one step further to its natural extension, and that is, the Black community. It is a mess. It is a culture now steeped in brutality and wanton violence. And why? Because of the break up of the family and the complete lack of fathers in the Black community. Children born out of wedlock is something like 75% in the Black community.

In the White community children born out of wedlock is skyrocketing as well. If you watch MTV or any other such dreck you will find that out of wedlock birth is now celebrated, in the “Teen Mom”, or “Secretly Pregnant” or whatever other show is now glamorizing raising a bastard child.

And then there is the whole victimology that begins with, “I'm a single mother...”.

You sow to the wind, you reap a whirlwind. I blame this on those many who told us that we were all simply “repressed” and needed to be sexually “free”.

I also blame the feminists and every single TV commercial and TV program that shows the male as the dunce. The female is always the wise one, and the Black person is always the hip one.

Yeah, we are really free now to brutalize each other thanks to what the Leftists have been preaching these last 40 years.

7 posted on 12/17/2013 7:04:36 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: neverdem

It goes without saying.


9 posted on 12/17/2013 7:05:40 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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Nobody said it was causation...

Why not?

If every person who died of lung cancer had smoked AND used multivitamins, causation would be on the table.

Should be on the table here too. Along with weird liberal values, antidepressants, and interest in the Occult. These slaughters by liberal young people have NOTHING to do with guns... and everything to do with rage, envy and hatred, and alienation from fathers.

11 posted on 12/17/2013 7:07:14 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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Sorry, I can’t agree with this.

There’s a significant difference between an “absent” Father and parents that are simply divorced. There is no way to draw any conclusions about anything - let alone murderous intent - with two variables as major and material as the two mentioned.

With a 50% divorce rate, I know many co-workers and have many friends that are divorced. It would be pretty well arrogant of me to assume that I’m somehow a better Father to my kids simply because they’re divorced.

Like anything - you get what you give. You get the results you work for.


15 posted on 12/17/2013 7:10:45 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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Another article to drive liberals off the deep end.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 7:12:22 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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Another relevant truth to remind us of the need for healthy families.


18 posted on 12/17/2013 7:12:48 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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There are several problems with this analysis. First, school shooters are a fairly recent development whereas absent fathers have been around a long time. Second, if absent fathers were the problem, I would think the majority of shooters would be black since they have very high rates of fatherlessness. School shooters who are black are very rare. IMO the rise of school shooters reflects the rise in the number of kids who do not believe in God. Belief in God means that you will be punished for what you do in life and that moderates behavior. Those that dont believe do not fear the consequences of their deeds after death. They know they can avoid consequences simply by killing themselves, which they almost always do. Couple this with the desensitization to killing people they get from video games, movies and a high level of anger in general and have a school shooter.


26 posted on 12/17/2013 7:24:05 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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Fathers matter.

In a study described in the book, kids with ADHD were paired with male therapists due to a noted absence of fathers in this child/adolecent population. The kids were given behavioral treatment with the therapists and special attention was paid to developing a positive attachment to the male figure. At the end of the treatment, only 11% of the boys and 2% of the girls had to remain on medication. The authors of this sudy suggested that social forces may be major contributors to ADHD. Among these social forces are: “the absence of positive father role models; the presence of a revolving door for negative male role models brought into the home; poor parenting; the need for order in the classroom when teachers are severely curtailed in meting out discipline; and a declining appreciation in our culture of what constitutes normal boy behavior.”
http://drhelen.blogspot.com/2005/11/does-absence-of-fathers-cause-adhd.html


29 posted on 12/17/2013 7:27:39 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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As all these nuts were lefties it may be more a case of LEFTLUENZA.


30 posted on 12/17/2013 7:28:53 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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No one can say we weren't warned:


36 posted on 12/17/2013 7:37:14 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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43 posted on 12/17/2013 8:03:32 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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Something very interesting.

After latest shooting, murder manual (Anarchist cookbook) author calls for book to be taken 'immediately' out of print
53 posted on 12/17/2013 8:59:15 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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I ran into a women, single mom, yesterday.

2A supporter, army brat herself.

She had a son and daughter about 15 or 16.

I put my foot in my mouth when I talked about the military using bases in all states to force same sex marriage upon the states throughout the union.

She didn’t seem to take offense, but told me her children are both gay and she still loves them for who they are.

I’d say one of the least known outcomes of single parents is the dependency of the remaining parent to trust the system to educate and indoctrinate their kids. Single parents may blame a faith on their single condition. Perfect example here.

God help us.


54 posted on 12/17/2013 9:00:40 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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Seriously this guy was a certified NUT JOB to claim Divorce was a factor is beyond a stretch


56 posted on 12/17/2013 9:03:56 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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Occasionally I used to watch that show Intervention. I learned two things, I found very surprising.

1. How often parents either introduce their kids to drugs directly or indirectly by the kid seeing the parent use. But very often using WITH the kid. (irrelevant to this discussion)

2. How much divorce really and truly messes some kids up.

58 posted on 12/17/2013 9:13:38 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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Well, in the first instance it was one less person they had to get rid of.


71 posted on 12/17/2013 1:38:01 PM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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