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Fennelly: An uneasy Heisman handoff
Tampa Tribune ^ | 12/15/2013 | Martin Fennelly

Posted on 12/15/2013 6:56:32 AM PST by Retired Chemist

It was supposed to be closure: New York City, bright lights, big announcement, people standing, the applause, Jameis Winston holding the trophy over his head, his beaming parents, all the smiles. And somewhere out there, probably his lawyer.

Here was the dilemma for some of us:

To cheer or not to cheer?

I cheered not.

(Excerpt) Read more at tbo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: football; heisman; jameiswinston
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1 posted on 12/15/2013 6:56:32 AM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: Retired Chemist

..some say the official police report tells a damaging story.


2 posted on 12/15/2013 7:02:29 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

about the accuser?


3 posted on 12/15/2013 7:05:09 AM PST by gusopol3
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nope


4 posted on 12/15/2013 7:05:56 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Retired Chemist

...........sadly this is a “she said, he said” case. As long as that holds, this kid will not be prosecuted.

But another old cliche is “where there’s smoke there’s fire” and had I been a Heisman voter I would not have voted for him.

Oh, and to compare Johnny Manziels “arrest” to what this kid is accused of, as if there is moral equivalence, is typical lazy minded, scummy, libtard, journalism.


5 posted on 12/15/2013 7:09:04 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Doogle

Fennelly got a load of negative commentary at the Tampa site. I haven’t kept up with it, but his saying “I didn’t do anything wrong”(as opposed to “I didn’t break the law”) is shameful.


6 posted on 12/15/2013 7:09:53 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Doogle

The story is beyond creepy and the guy is a sexual predator .
This trophy is now tarnished beyond repair .


7 posted on 12/15/2013 7:12:58 AM PST by ncalburt ( AmnestySad media out in full force ing)
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To: ncalburt

Oh please. Nebraska’s Johnny Rodgers was a convicted felon when he won the Heisman in 1972.


8 posted on 12/15/2013 7:16:28 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Doogle

If some of the reports I have read are true it sure doesn’t sound like it was consensual.


9 posted on 12/15/2013 7:20:34 AM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: Retired Chemist
What an irresponsible column by a writer who obviously knows nothing about the facts of the case -- or chooses to ignore them.

Jameis Winston's "accuser" is an FSU student from Tampa who made a sport of banging black athletes, and bragged on social media about belonging the "Cleat Chasers" who chase and bed FSU athletes. She didn't make the rape accusation on her own; that was done by her friend who called her family and the police, exposing her promiscuity and trapping her into a defensive lie.

The Tampa columnist doesn't mention that eyewitnesses saw the accuser kneeling and giving Winston a BJ and also mounted atop Winston during intercourse -- neither of which sounds like rape. The writer also fails to disclose that the accuser's ambulance-chasing attorney is also her aunt. The family is humiliated that their beautiful blonde lovely was exposed as an interracial whore, and they are intent on destroying Jameis Winston as retribution.

10 posted on 12/15/2013 7:21:11 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Always A Marine

This is one of the reasons “health care” resonates with young people these days.

Widespread promiscuity and hard to cure STDs.

Back in the 60s I can guarantee nobody in their early 20s gave a rip about “health insurance”.


11 posted on 12/15/2013 7:23:55 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: ncalburt
The story is beyond creepy and the guy is a sexual predator

What? The encounter occurred over a year ago, on December 7, 2012, when Jameis Winston was a first-semester freshman had hadn't played one down for FSU. The accuser bragged on social media about being one of the "Cleat Chasers" who chased and banged FSU athletes. The evidence shows that young Erica was the predator, not Jameis Winston.

12 posted on 12/15/2013 7:27:08 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Doogle
..some say the official police report tells a damaging story.

I suggest you read the report for yourself. The official investigation absolutely destroys the accuser who changed her story multiple times, was caught in multiple lies, and has absolutely no credibility. Her humiliated family doesn't blame their daughter for chasing and banging athletes; instead, they've hired Aunt Patricia Carroll to publicly horsewhip Mandingo for taking what her niece gave him.

13 posted on 12/15/2013 7:35:06 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Retired Chemist

If guilty we shall see it again from this golden child. Next time
it’ll be a girlfriend.......or a wife beat-down. Rarely does a previous
dodged bullet save them from themselves. Those fans and officials
who enable this crap might as well congratulate themselves now.
What is to come has been added to the schedule under “open date”.


14 posted on 12/15/2013 7:35:55 AM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Retired Chemist
We don't know the truth and now never will.
The police botched the hell out of it.
I love college football as much as anyone. However I want something like this thoroughly investigated, by outside departments if necessary.

One thing that really pisses me off is the prosecutor laughing through his NO CHARGE news conference. Even if the girl made it all up (I don't think she did) there is nothing funny here.

15 posted on 12/15/2013 7:40:59 AM PST by DeaconRed (I love you Granddaddy: The most beautiful words ever spoken.)
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To: Always A Marine

Thanks for the info. You’ll never get this story from the MSM.


16 posted on 12/15/2013 8:01:00 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: DeaconRed
One thing that really pisses me off is the prosecutor laughing through his NO CHARGE news conference.

News reports said he is a graduate of FSU and big supporter of the school.

17 posted on 12/15/2013 8:03:00 AM PST by Retired Chemist
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News reports said he is a graduate of FSU and big supporter of the school.

Willie Meggs has been State Attorney (Florida's title for DA) since 1985. He was a police sergeant before going to law school at FSU, and has been extremely tough on FSU athletes who've broken the law. Among the high-profile Seminoles that Meggs has prosecuted are Greg Dent, Darnell Dockett, Travis Johnson, Laveranues Coles and Peter Warrick. Willie Meggs is a law and order guy and beholden to no one.

18 posted on 12/15/2013 8:13:49 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: DeaconRed
We don't know the truth and now never will. The police botched the hell out of it.

Oh, really? And just how did they botch it? The Tallahassee Police and DA were presented with a reluctant "accuser" who told a conflicting and ever-changing story and who tried to conceal her online documentation of "Cleat Chaser" athlete chasing and whoring. With each new rabbit trail introduced by the accuser and her attorney aunt, the police had to refocus the investigation. They were played by a humiliated and vengeful family that didn't like their little blonde girl chasing and banging Mandingo.

19 posted on 12/15/2013 8:22:51 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: Retired Chemist

Winston at least deserved the award for his play on the field. The Heisman really misses the mark many times as they did when they overlooked Johnny Majors and Peyton Manning.


20 posted on 12/15/2013 8:25:52 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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