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So "we've" been snookered again.
1 posted on 12/14/2013 10:38:20 AM PST by facedown
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To: facedown

How come no one ever states that the “Antarctic Ozone Hole” is directly above (MOL) an active volcano, Mt. Erebus?


2 posted on 12/14/2013 10:40:50 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (OK, Obama be bad. Now where's OUR Program, Plan, and Leader?)
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To: facedown

What the article does not point out, is that the ozone hole is more connected to cold temperatures. There have been recorded ozone hole above Siberia.


3 posted on 12/14/2013 10:41:44 AM PST by Exton1
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They should shoot Al Gore out of a giant cannon into the middle of the Ozone Hole. That would fix it.


4 posted on 12/14/2013 10:43:33 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The Earth has a couple of ozone bald spots. It’s getting on towards middle age.


5 posted on 12/14/2013 10:45:47 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: facedown

So “we’ve” been snookered again.


And your scientific expertise to back that up? Godless-muzzy-commie-hippy scientists doesn’t count.


6 posted on 12/14/2013 10:46:52 AM PST by chessplayer
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1) The Ozone hole(s) at both poles existed when we FIRST measured.
2) IF we had no ozone thinning, the earth would have NO SEASONS (e.g. we WOULD be a greenhouse)
3) “Ozone depleting” chemicals are not the issue — Dupont’s expiration of patents on them (and therefore the inability to make money) is at the root of banning certain types of cloroflourocarbons
4) IF freon is causing ozone depletion, it supposedly does this by charged free chlorine gas in the upper atmosphere -— and if that’s so, freon as a source pales in comparison to the billions of metric tons of chlorine we put in water (which, by the way is easier to liberate than the chlorine in freon).

IF you don’t believe me about point #2, let me as you a simple question...

In the northern hemisphere, during winter, the cold, cold wind blows down from the Arctic into Canada, while simultaneously it’s blowing into Siberia. So the wind blows FROM the northern pole DOWN (south) in every direction.....WHERE DOES the wind come from that is blowing SOUTH in every direction????? It comes from the UPPER ATMOSPHERE, enabled by a thinning in our OZONE!!!!


7 posted on 12/14/2013 10:47:41 AM PST by BereanBrain
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he banning of ozone-depleting chemicals hasn't yet caused detectable improvements in the Antarctic ozone hole, new research suggests.

But in the 1990s liberals told me that the ozone "hole" would kill us in 10 years. How can we still exist when it's still there?

9 posted on 12/14/2013 10:50:45 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters (Socialism is slavery.)
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The article is pretty round about in saying that the banning of the “Ozone depleting chemicals” has had a dubious effect on the ozone. In fact, it’s jet streams and wind and cold that affect the ozone.

Once again, the environmental Nazis were wrong.


10 posted on 12/14/2013 10:52:17 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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El Nina, El Nino, the hole in the Ozone layer, the most prominent outcome of these three discoveries, was to reveal that to a large extent this is the most anal period in the history of the human species.

As if these things didn’t exist long before man discovered them, and their impact on global dynamics only started after man discovered them.


11 posted on 12/14/2013 10:52:35 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Zero = zero)
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To: facedown

NASA is just another fully politicized and compromized government agency living off the fumes of its greatness forty years ago. They can’t tell you if it will rain in Kansas City next week, but are dead sure about the state of the upper atmosphere 55 years from now.


14 posted on 12/14/2013 10:54:30 AM PST by SpaceBar
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The main problem is that scientist determined that the sun has little variation because they measured visible light and total radiance and made their determination for insignificant variation. Thus they ignored solar affects on the ozone concentration even though ozone in the upper atmosphere is created by UV light from the sun. Their determination for insignificant solar change is now proven incorrect. We have since discovered that UV radiance can vary by more then 50 % during a solar cycle. The problem now is that science has become so corrupt with politics, that it lacks the integrity to admit its own faults.


15 posted on 12/14/2013 10:57:18 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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16 posted on 12/14/2013 10:57:54 AM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of ObamaÂ’s America)
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Oh I wondered what had happened to this old catastrophe. I asked a liberal eco-warrior of my limited aquaintance and he stated quite emphatically that the banning of CFC's had solved the problem. Well there you go.

It seems that actually the problem has been completely solved by the media refocussing on a new disaster. How odd.

22 posted on 12/14/2013 11:20:25 AM PST by Vanders9
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SAN FRANCISCO — The banning of ozone-depleting chemicals hasn't yet caused detectable improvements in the Antarctic ozone hole, new research suggests.

Let me guess. Is NASA is in need of more government money, so this is how they do it?

23 posted on 12/14/2013 11:43:48 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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The findings suggest that measuring the total size of the ozone hole says little about ozone depletion, and that it's misleading to use the hole's extent alone to measure environmental progress.

Yet, that's exactly how they came to the conclusion that we caused the hole.

24 posted on 12/14/2013 11:56:48 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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I’ll be 165 in 2070.. crankier than heck too.

I seriously doubt anyone can predict much of anything 57 years out when it comes to atmospheric conditions.

but they take their best shot anyway.. and so shall we.


25 posted on 12/14/2013 11:58:05 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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The ozone hole won’t heal EVER because there is NO SUNLIGHT THERE!!!

idiots


26 posted on 12/14/2013 11:59:00 AM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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2070? That soon?

I better start spraying my antiperspirant at the sky again.

27 posted on 12/14/2013 12:00:29 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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George Carlin was wrong on a lot of things, but he was right on here....

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles…hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages…And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet…the planet…the planet isn’t going anywhere. WE ARE!


29 posted on 12/14/2013 12:00:44 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: facedown

So, like all liberal schemes, the Trillion dollar Freon ban produced nothing but holes in people wallets where money once was. The sad thing is that the “wise leaders” in our scientwistic society are the ones making Genetic modification “improvements” to nature.

I would not trust them with a drivers license. Instead they are remodeling the food chain for the entire planet. Gives me indigestion just thinking about it.


31 posted on 12/14/2013 12:27:01 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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