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What If No Doctor Will See You?
Townhall.com ^ | December 14, 2013 | John C. Goodman

Posted on 12/14/2013 5:56:58 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Members of Congress and the political elites will be going to the Mayo Clinic while us peons will be standing in line at swamped hospital emergency rooms and government clinics.


41 posted on 12/14/2013 8:07:27 AM PST by The Great RJ ( eating)
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To: Kaslin
“In the meantime, the most vulnerable populations may have less access to care than they had before ObamaCare became law.”

The Unseen Hand of the Market” can become a mailed fist when the Taker Class perverts the market sufficiently with socialist laws, rules, regulations.

42 posted on 12/14/2013 8:07:41 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Vigilanteman
it was still going to take over one month.
I've been going to the same dermatology office since the mid 70s and even today it takes a little more a week to ten days to get in.
But they're specialists and I still have a hard time believing a sick patient has to wait eight weeks to see a GP.
BTW, I sincerely hope you make another appointment even after being "cured" by frankincense.
43 posted on 12/14/2013 8:13:47 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Kaslin
As physicians increasingly have to allocate their time, patients in plans that pay below-market prices will likely wait longest. Those patients will be the elderly and the disabled on Medicare, low-income families on Medicaid, and (if the Massachusetts model is followed) people with subsidized insurance acquired in ObamaCare's newly created health insurance exchanges.

The new 'health care' will be a bonanza for 'doctors' who graduated at the bottom of their classes in Caribbean 'medical schools. I knew a doctor (many years ago) - (total quack) who got his medical degree in Italy. When I asked him if he spoke Italian he said 'no' but that his parents paid a small fortune for his medical degree... It's similar in some of the Caribbean island 'medical schools'. So yeah, Obamacare's got incentives from hell. The horrors will keep coming until everyone's been touched.

ON the lighter brighter side, all those folks who graduate based on affirmative action or 'special help' will now be able to have large practices and be PAID the exact same as a doctor how knows what he's doing.

This is NOT a dog whistle - I'm talking about blacks and women who get advantages getting into medical school - and staying there... when they're not qualified.

44 posted on 12/14/2013 8:15:19 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: P.O.E.

The government will just mandate that all doctors must accept all patients, regardless of whether they are on Medicare, Medicaid, or Obamacare private insurance. This is where we are headed—a single payer system. The public will be begging for it after a few years of Obamacare.


45 posted on 12/14/2013 8:18:54 AM PST by kabar
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To: oh8eleven

The issue is that the average doctor is so busy that he has his whole schedule filled by existing patients for at least three weeks out. His staff knows how to plan the schedule for the existing patients, but a new patient takes longer than those who have been in before since the doctor has to take her history, review previous work and tests, if any, and figure out what her problems are. So it could be months before there’s a spot in the schedule big enough to accommodate an unusually long appointment.


46 posted on 12/14/2013 8:23:16 AM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: oh8eleven
I refuse to believe both stats are real - three weeks to see a doctor? Ridiculous. But two months? Absurd.

Massachusetts Medical Society: Wait times for doctors is too long

"Take two aspirin and call me in two months." That's what prospective new patients looking for a first appointment with a family physician are hearing in Hampden and Hampshire counties, according to an annual survey from the Massachusetts Medical Society. The average wait time for a new patient appointment with a family physician in Hampden County is 58 days, up from 48 in the 2012 survey, according to a study released Monday.

In neighboring Hampshire County, the wait for a first appointment with a family physician is 56 days, down from 96 days a year ago. In Franklin County, the wait time fell by nearly half from 205 days to 106, but is still longer than three months and the longest wait time in the state.

By comparison, the statewide average is 39 days. Suffolk County, which includes Boston and its suburbs, has the shortest wait time at 16 days.

47 posted on 12/14/2013 8:23:58 AM PST by kabar
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To: Tupelo

You probably qualify for Medicaid.


48 posted on 12/14/2013 8:24:47 AM PST by kabar
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To: oh8eleven

I refuse to believe both stats are real - three weeks to see a doctor?


The “Progressives” have long crowed about the glorious Canadian model for Health Care Reform.

Go research the waiting time for an MRI in Canada and get back to us.


49 posted on 12/14/2013 8:30:34 AM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Go research the waiting time for an MRI in Canada and get back to us.
I can do you one better - my son's brother-in-law is a doctor and did a one year fellowship in Vancouver, British Columbia just a few years ago.
When I asked about the Canadian H/C system and if it was truly as screwed up as most people thought, he said, "No, it's a lot worse. You have no idea."
But that's Canada.
50 posted on 12/14/2013 8:37:42 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

But that’s Canada.


The left is trying to turn our Healthcare System into what Canada has.


51 posted on 12/14/2013 8:41:17 AM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Vinnie
I had to find a new GP and when I mentioned Medicare, I received a 'no' everywhere I tried.

That's because of the low payouts from Medicare. Be thankful you're not on Medicaid where the payouts are even lower.

I recently asked my GP if he saw Medicaid patients. His response, "I haven't seen a Medicaid patient in years."

52 posted on 12/14/2013 8:50:31 AM PST by upchuck (I can't stand people that don't know the difference between 'than' and 'then.' Their so stupid...)
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To: oh8eleven

The going to the emergency room claim was a little suspect too....I think that only works for the very rich and very poor. Going without is the more likely alternative.

The last time I went to the emergency room — caught a really bad cold during Christmas...cost me $125 and the insurance wouldn’t pay because it wasn’t an emergency.


53 posted on 12/14/2013 8:56:08 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: oh8eleven

I don’t know. It is taking longer and longer for us to get an appointment with our family doctor now. In fact, we usually have to see the nurse practioner for most things. I don’t mind, in a way, because that is usually fine. But what if we really needed to see our doctor? Government involvement in health care has been messing things up for decades, and it’s getting worse.


54 posted on 12/14/2013 9:04:56 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: oh8eleven

I’m sure most can get in to see a doctor much faster. But from what I’ve see, if a doctor has openings, there’s a reason for it.

And it’s good to see Kerry and Pelosi can get their Botox treatments as needed.


55 posted on 12/14/2013 10:06:19 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Kaslin
Liberals seem to have no connection with reality.

They really seem to think that:

HEALTH INSURANCE = HEALTH CARE

Of course, that's lunacy. Health insurance is simply a payment/risk-sharing system for delivering health care services. It isn't health care itself.

Health care is hospitals, doctors, nurses, armies of their support staff, plus ambulances, MRI machines, pharmaceuticals, medical equipment manufactures, and on and on.

You can, for example, issue rationing cards to the poor to buy rice, but if there isn't any rice, the rationing cards are worthless. Rationing cards don't equal rice. Health insurance doesn't equal health care.

I've tried to pin down liberals over the past few years with the question: "how many doctors and nurses does Obamacare train? How many hospitals does it build, equip and staff?"

Blank stares. Just blank stares. Like deer caught in the headlights.

So, I'd say, "basically what Obamacare does is promises 40 million more people access to the current system of trained medical staff and physical infrastructure, but does nothing to increase the number of doctors, hospitals, drug and equipment makers, and so on?"

More blank stares.

Then I'd say "so you're increasing demand but not increasing supply. Yet Obama is promising lower prices and no rationing, including death panels. But we know from Econ 101 that if demand increases and supply stays the same, then prices have to go up. So, how does that work exactly?"

Liberals usually respond with some emotional outburst, like "you conservatives don't give a damn about what happens to the 40 million uninsured" or something. They never address the question. They seem incapable of understanding a simple fact that health insurance for all does not mean access to healthcare for all, in any meaningful sense.

I used to think it was because they were all morons, but that's only true for the bottom 80% of Rats. The top 20% know exactly what they're doing and why. It's all about getting power and keeping power. That's it. They don't care about whether anybody actually has access to adequate health care. They just want to run people's lives.

Democrats are evil.

56 posted on 12/14/2013 10:41:52 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Jim Noble

Anti-kulak?


57 posted on 12/14/2013 11:10:15 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Yes.

Doctors=kulaks.


58 posted on 12/14/2013 11:21:59 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

See my tagline.


59 posted on 12/14/2013 11:28:30 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: GOPJ

You’re wrong about women being at an advantage getting into medical school. Women who apply, on average, have strong applications, good grades, good test scores. Admissions committees work hard to make sure they get a gender balance.


60 posted on 12/14/2013 11:40:57 AM PST by ladyjane
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