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NSA review to leave spying programs largely unchanged, reports say
The Guardian ^ | December 13, 2013 | Spencer Ackerman

Posted on 12/13/2013 2:51:40 PM PST by kobald

A participant in a White House-sponsored review of surveillance activities described as “shameful” an apparent decision to leave most of the National Security Agency’s controversial bulk spying intact.

Sascha Meinrath, director of the Open Technology Institute, said Friday that the review panel he advised is at risk of missing an opportunity to restore confidence in US surveillance practices.

“The review group was searching for ways to make the most modest pivot necessary to continue business as usual,” Meinrath said...

According to the leaks, the review group will recommend that bulk collection of every American’s phone call data continue, possibly by the phone companies instead of the NSA...

The Open Technology Institute’s Meinrath said he told White House chief of staff Denis McDonough that the bulk surveillance revelations represented a “reputational crisis” for the US. “I think the Obama administration is going to be shocked in their own special way by just how little impact this has in turning around public perception of what they’re doing,” he said.

“I think what they’re going to find is when the initial dust settles from this attempt to spin the story is that people are going to be quick to realize this is not meaningful reform, this is not a bold new direction, and it is not going to do much to rein in a surveillance regime run amok.”

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; nsa; whitewash
This is about what I'd expect from an Obama administration "review panel" -- smoke and mirrors.
1 posted on 12/13/2013 2:51:40 PM PST by kobald
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To: kobald

yep, change with change to the worse.


2 posted on 12/13/2013 2:52:54 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: kobald
The NSA is Coming to Town.
3 posted on 12/13/2013 2:55:58 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: no-to-illegals
Ever see one of those Discover Card commercials where somebody calls about a missed payment and the caller is also the company rep at the other end of the line ("We Treat You Like You Treat You")?

That's pretty much how this "review" process worked.

4 posted on 12/13/2013 2:57:34 PM PST by kobald
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To: kobald
Great read: State of Deception
5 posted on 12/13/2013 3:05:58 PM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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To: kobald

What you say in Vegas

Stays in a Utah data farm facility

NSA needs a new PR firm.


6 posted on 12/13/2013 3:31:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: kobald

about as big a joke as the IRS “taxpayer advocate”.


7 posted on 12/13/2013 3:38:56 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: kobald

Sham democracy —OCCUPIED U.S.A.


8 posted on 12/13/2013 4:12:21 PM PST by gaijin
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To: NormsRevenge

I think the term is “Duh” did anyone really expect NSA to just close the windows?

I have always assuned that if the government could, the government would. I am a patriot, I would never betray my country, BUT I also have more sense than to say anything over a phone line I would not like published in tomorrow’s paper.

Pass all the laws you want: if it can be done, it will be done, and has been done.


9 posted on 12/13/2013 5:11:03 PM PST by Barkeep99
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To: kobald
This is about what I'd expect from an Obama administration "review panel" -- smoke and mirrors.

While it is true that the 0bama administration is more venal than most, it really makes no difference whether it is democrat or republican is in office. The government has gone feral. There is ultimately only one solution for that.

10 posted on 12/13/2013 6:14:46 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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According to the leaks, the review group will recommend that bulk collection of every American’s phone call data continue, possibly by the phone companies instead of the NSA...

Makes no difference if the NSA gets the phone companies to collect and forward the data, rather than the NSA directly harvesting it.

I'd like to say I expect better from the US government, but I don't.

11 posted on 12/13/2013 6:44:49 PM PST by MortMan (We've gone from ‘failure is not an option’ to ‘failure is not an obstacle’.)
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12 posted on 01/02/2014 10:39:12 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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