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To: jsanders2001
If they vote military pension pay cuts shouldn’t they do the same for thir own?...: )

Of course not. That is why Paul Ryan is such a hypocrite to single out military veterans.

Members of Congress are fully vested in their pensions after only 5 years. They can collect the full benefit at age 62 with only 5 years in Congress, or they can collect at age 50 with 20 years, or any age after 25 years. Given that most members have little trouble being re-elected, their pensions are generous and safe.

If a member of the military even makes it to 20 years without being injured, losing his or her family through divorce at the strain of constant deployments, or without being broken in some way is almost a miracle.

Most veterans do not re-enter the civilian workforce upon retirement to lucrative jobs. Some do, but not the vast majority. Go into your local NAPA or WalMart and take a poll. Many are near middle age, and they find starting a completely new career (especially in the Obama economy) to be as hard as anyone else).

Remember, if Congress is allowed to get away with this, nothing the rest of America considers "a promise" is safe. Not your Medicare, not your Social Security, not anything.

7 posted on 12/13/2013 9:08:11 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
oh come on...I know plenty of military lifers who work other jobs, and infact, get preferential hiring to get another govt job....

if somebody thinks they don't have to work anymore after a simple 20 yrs in the military, then that is their problem....

a military job is afterall a JOB...a job job....you go to work, you have breaks, you lunch, you go home...

travel?..yes...most jobs require occasional moves to stay with the company or advance...

risk?...of course...but people in war zones get extra big pay and pay no taxes on that amount either....

and this job also is VOLUNTARY....no one forced you to do it....

I'm all for govt decreasing govt pensions on their employees before any on military, just because my family has a long history of serving its country, but some people are going overboard on the santity of military service as if they were slaves chained to it with no way out, and you could have left the service at any interval....

I say all this with my own husband receiving a smallish air guard pension at this very moment...and thankful we are for it.....

10 posted on 12/13/2013 9:20:21 AM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: SkyPilot
Remember, if Congress is allowed to get away with this, nothing the rest of America considers "a promise" is safe. Not your Medicare, not your Social Security, not anything.

LOL you just figured that out. Ask the American Indians about the value of a government promise.

17 posted on 12/13/2013 10:01:10 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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