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Obama’s Afghanistan Experts Stumped on U.S. Death Toll, War Costs During Hearing
The Washington Times ^ | Thursday, December 12, 2103 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 12/13/2013 7:57:09 AM PST by kristinn

President Obama’s brain trust on Afghanistan does not know much the U.S. spends on the war each year or the American cost in lost lives on the battlefield.

This embarrassing lack of basic knowledge from State Department and Pentagon experts on Afghanistan at a House hearing Wednesday prompted even a Democrat to say he was stunned.

The setting was the House Foreign Affairs Committee. The Issue: Afghanistan and the transition to fewer U.S. troops post-2014.

The witnesses: James F. Dobbins, State’s special representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan; Donald Sampler, assistant to the administrator, U.S. Agency for International Development, which provides civilian foreign aid; and Michael Dumont, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia.

SNIP

According to the Pentagon’s fiscal 2013 budget, it is spending about $88 billion this year to wage the war in Afghanistan. The State Department budget allocates $4.6 billion in aide and operations.

The U.S. has lost the lives of 118 service members this year, according to the website icasualties.org.

(Excerpt) Read more at p.washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; afghanwar; afghanwardeaths; contemptforcongress
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God help our troops and their families.
1 posted on 12/13/2013 7:57:09 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Well, they don’t have the Lewenski media reporting on it nightly since BO became POTUS . . .


2 posted on 12/13/2013 7:59:15 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Yes, the body counts that were on a 5, 5, 7, 10 and 11 PM news broadcasts somehow disappeared under Obama. Lots more of our boys died under ZerO, but the low-info voter has no idea.


3 posted on 12/13/2013 8:01:27 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: kristinn
What are the odds our MSM will finally take notice?

Not a chance.

4 posted on 12/13/2013 8:01:54 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Vigilanteman

F*&%ing amazing... the scumbag POS media told us every day the total number of soldiers that had been killed in battle when Bush was in office; the jug-eared, lying, a$$ clown takes over and the KIA total exponentially eclipses those from the Bush years, and not a single solitary word is uttered from the vile scum passing media. Unaccountable, unmitigated evil.


5 posted on 12/13/2013 8:05:37 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: kristinn

How man civilians has Obama killed with drones.

We have soldiers in prison for killing civilians while Obama kills them egularly with Drones.

Is thee some difference between double tapping and blowing a civilian all to hell with a drone?


6 posted on 12/13/2013 8:05:50 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: wac3rd

Was it CNN or MSNBC that had the body count on 24/7 on the screen infographics?


7 posted on 12/13/2013 8:09:54 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Common Sense 101
Why should the progressives continue to dwell on the plight of the homeless jobless minorities troops when doing so no longer serves any useful political purpose?
8 posted on 12/13/2013 8:10:10 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Venturer

bump


9 posted on 12/13/2013 8:15:28 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: All

I think that people are missing a salient point. The average person working in that position wouldn’t have the exact data on the tip of their tongue. They might have rough estimates, which may, or may not be close to the real number. If called on, like say to testify in front of a Congressional hearing, they could easily gather the data with the expectation that someone may ask for it.

This whole thing is not about lack of basic knowledge, it is about contempt. They don’t care enough about Congress to make even the smallest effort. Their contempt is well founded, too. They know that it is all kabuki theater and that absolutely nothing will come from it. The GOP-e and the Dems who claim to care for this country will not do anything to stop the ruination of this country both at home and abroad.


10 posted on 12/13/2013 8:21:59 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Domandred

Our public tv station newshour had it every Friday night. Now? Not a peep. They don’t get a dime from me.


11 posted on 12/13/2013 8:31:03 AM PST by refermech
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To: skeeter

Because eventually, many will return home.


12 posted on 12/13/2013 8:36:35 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Turbo Pig

“If called on, like say to testify in front of a Congressional hearing, they could easily gather the data with the expectation that someone may ask for it.”

One would think. Typical arrogant jerks. I used to work for a VP that would rip these clowns to shreds. If you were going to a meeting/presentation with him, you better have you ducks lined up. He showed no mercy. Most folks never made that mistake twice. I didn’t make it once. LOL!


13 posted on 12/13/2013 8:39:27 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Turbo Pig
The average person working in that position wouldn’t have the exact data on the tip of their tongue.

With respect, I suggest that a fellow with this job title:

Michael Dumont, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia.

...had better by God know what the casualty figures are on a daily basis. Especially, as you point out, if he's about to testify in front of Congress. Even Kabuki theater can be embarrassing.

14 posted on 12/13/2013 8:43:46 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Vigilanteman

Where are Cindi Sheehan and Michael Moore?


15 posted on 12/13/2013 8:47:59 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: kristinn

I said, when Zero was elected into the White Hut that I was having difficulty supporting the troops who chose to serve under his command. These days, that feeling still exists because they have had to reenlist to stay under his command. I understand that someone might not want to give up a career but when an out and out Communist takes command it is time to get out.


16 posted on 12/13/2013 8:59:17 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

“...but when an out and out Communist takes command it is time to get out...”

And then all you’ll have left is HIS army, willing to do whatever he tells them to do.

Respectfully disagree with you friend... we need Patriots in there, woven throughout every strata and layer, that can interdict and hamper any scheme this clown and his minions might try.

Ultimately, it’s all about who gets to the guns first - our people, or theirs. Personally, I’d rather it be our people.


17 posted on 12/13/2013 9:13:10 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Anyone who attempts to interdict or hamper operations or misuse their position in the military is immediately in serious trouble. Civilians can always say I quit or I feel sick and need to rest. GI’s don’t have that luxury.

Our military is supplied from top to bottom by civilians. Cut the supply chain and our military is ineffective. You cannot fight when you have no supplies, no food, no medicine, no ammo, no fuel, no oil, no spare parts.


18 posted on 12/13/2013 9:37:07 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: kristinn

This country surely needs God’s help.

And remember, according to the democrats in 2008 Afghanistan is the GOOD war.


19 posted on 12/13/2013 10:08:22 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: kristinn

It’s the Rules of Engagement, you bloody morons!

Bring our people home. We don’t even have an identifiable objective in that country any longer.


20 posted on 12/13/2013 10:51:52 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: kristinn
It is as though Alfred E. Neuman cloned himself and then set up an administration with himself as President and the clones as his staff.


21 posted on 12/13/2013 11:04:24 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Venturer

Remember those old west books they would sell talking about a man so mean he shot a man just for snoring. That’s Obama.

Obama, a man so mean he droned a family just for marrying.


22 posted on 12/13/2013 11:05:37 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Inwoodian

“Where are Cindi Sheehan and Michael Moore?”

On their knees licking their beloved Obozo’s expensive shoes.


23 posted on 12/13/2013 12:24:03 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare, ItÂ’s a Wonderful Lie! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: Windflier

“It’s the Rules of Engagement, you bloody morons!”

Bingo!

Any of us who served when LBJ, Carter, Clintoon and now the Obozo were the CIC?POTUS understood the ROE’s helped the enemy to survive and to kill or wound us.


24 posted on 12/13/2013 12:29:19 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare, ItÂ’s a Wonderful Lie! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: 1010RD

Maybe they were a male and female couple and that pissed him off.


25 posted on 12/13/2013 1:18:35 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Common Sense 101
F*&%ing amazing... the scumbag POS media told us every day the total number of soldiers that had been killed in battle when Bush was in office; the jug-eared, lying, a$$ clown takes over and the KIA total exponentially eclipses those from the Bush years, and not a single solitary word is uttered from the vile scum passing media. Unaccountable, unmitigated evil.

Sounds like you hold the mass media in about the same esteem that I do, and for pretty much the same reasons.

26 posted on 12/13/2013 1:25:59 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: skeeter
Peace, skeeter,

Until an elected Democrat stands up and demands an accounting, nothing will happen. Fortunately, such a man is coming.


James R. McClure Jr.
Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9

27 posted on 12/13/2013 2:51:39 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: James R. McClure Jr.
An anti federalist democrat - man are you in for it. Federal power is to the democrat party today what wings are to an airplane.

I do hope you pull it off.

28 posted on 12/13/2013 3:26:13 PM PST by skeeter
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To: James R. McClure Jr.

I guess you can explain why you are a dimocrat? Good luck, anyway.


29 posted on 12/13/2013 3:46:54 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: kristinn

“Obama’s Afghanistan Experts Stumped on U.S. Death Toll, War Costs During Hearing”

If they dont know anything, how are they the experts?


30 posted on 12/13/2013 4:48:24 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: skeeter
Peace, skeeter,

An anti federalist democrat - man are you in for it. Federal power is to the democrat party today what wings are to an airplane.

We can break the cycle of dependency on federal power.

I do hope you pull it off.

I'll look forward to your contribution next year. 8^)


James R. McClure Jr.
Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9

31 posted on 12/13/2013 6:06:23 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: cherokee1
Peace, cherokee1,

I guess you can explain why you are a dimocrat?

Absolutely! I believe in the founding ideals of the Democratic Party: strict interpretation of the Constitution, limited federal power, and State sovereignty. These were the principles which guided the Presidency from Jefferson to Madison to Monroe to Jackson and Cleveland. There are many Democrats in the Mid-west who share these values.


James R. McClure Jr.
Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9

32 posted on 12/13/2013 6:11:20 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> [Zero]’s brain trust on Afghanistan does not know much the U.S. spends on the war each year or the American cost in lost lives on the battlefield.

Thanks kristinn.


33 posted on 12/13/2013 7:29:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: kristinn

Simple, they don’t give sh** about the American people whether in uniform or not. We are all just cannon fodder to these out of touch bastards.


34 posted on 12/13/2013 10:29:00 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: kristinn

The corruption on the inner battlefield areas is staggering. From blood ranking to out-right money cutouts, the US taxpayer has been deeply deceived.


35 posted on 12/13/2013 10:39:51 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: kristinn

Hhhmmmm...Pentagon..Pentagram


36 posted on 12/14/2013 1:36:34 PM PST by SisterK (wise men still seek Him)
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To: kristinn

Can’t they even think up a new lie?


37 posted on 12/15/2013 8:28:38 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: kristinn

Obama’s Afghanistan Experts Stumped on U.S. Death Toll, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well the US public is not stumped. Its the idiotic ROE presently in effect. Turn our soldiers loose or bring them home.


38 posted on 12/15/2013 1:03:57 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Inwoodian; tx_eggman
Where are Cindi Sheehan and Michael Moore?

I have to give Cindy at lease a shred of credit... She has dogged Obama just as hard...

cindy-sheehan-joins-veterans-for-peace-chapter-to-impeach-obama

It's just that the DNCRM (Democratic National Convention - Run Media) has chosen not to air it.
39 posted on 12/16/2013 11:34:26 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: SpinnerWebb

* lease = least


40 posted on 12/16/2013 11:34:55 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: 1010RD

41 posted on 12/17/2013 4:47:21 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: kristinn
We own this. We point the fingers alot, but it's on us. Except there come a day when conservatives will go to the polls like a religion and their lives depended upon it, this will get worse.

I wish I had the answer on how to change the culture among conservatives so that we move our feet with urgency.

42 posted on 12/17/2013 9:10:57 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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43 posted on 12/17/2013 9:30:19 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: B4Ranch

And do what, FRiend? Our @sshat in Chief has managed to destroy any civilian jobs they COULD return to.

We lost a LOT of senior NCOs and Captains and above when Slick was CIC. (I served under Clinton, Reagan & Bush Sr.)

I’m certain people are not bailing this time around because there’s nothing out there for them, and at least you have three hots and a cot! (Or two hots and a cot and a sack lunch, per our lovely, caring FLOTUS. *SPIT*)


44 posted on 12/17/2013 11:01:07 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Want a job? Take $2000 and go to any truck driving school. Get your Commercial License and your HAZMAT Card. Then head to the oilfields and tell the manager you’ll work where ever he can find an opening. In two years you’ll be working your tail off making $80K+ a year.

No, it doesn’t matter if you are 40 or 50 years old. The world is screaming for truck drivers. The first six months is tough because you need to learn a lot. If you basically live in the truck for five years, you can damn near retire. Just invest it wisely. That’s how much money there is waiting to be earned.


45 posted on 12/17/2013 11:13:30 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

I’m only 5’ 1”. I can’t reach the pedals, let alone see over the windshield, LOL!

I have a girlfriend who is an over-the-road trucker; mostly within the state. She loves her life. :)

And, I already had more than 10 years in when Slick showed up. I wasn’t going to quit. I’m no quitter! :)


46 posted on 12/17/2013 11:16:42 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: B4Ranch
These days, that feeling still exists because they have had to reenlist to stay under his command. I understand that someone might not want to give up a career but when an out and out Communist takes command it is time to get out.

I would rather have loyal Americans in the Army even under Obama. They will do what is right as opposed to unconstitutional orders. It is part of the oath when they are sworn into the service.

47 posted on 12/17/2013 2:50:02 PM PST by cpdiii
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To: cpdiii

Your definition of loyal Americans is probably the same as mine. The Muslim officer who shot up Fort Hood was also considered by many to be loyal. No thank you. I don’t want jihadists, queers of either sex, communists or any socialists protecting my country. I have a difficult enough time with democrats. A divided loyalty is not what I consider necessary for the position.


48 posted on 12/17/2013 4:34:03 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: kristinn

I’m working as holiday help in a major department store chain and one of my customers was buying a gift for her son-in-law who is recovering from an IED explosion that hit his Hummer in Afghanistan. He has brain damage and trying to work with it. She is upset we are still there and it is a meat grinder as well as what happened to her son-in-law. We should be out of there, it is turning into a low level, simmering, Vietnam. I keep thinking if Kipling’s “Letters to a Young British Soldier” where not even Queen Victoria’s finest could tame that place. The Russians, as ruthless as they were, could not either. If Victorian England and Soviet Russia could not do it, neither can we. It’s time to cut bait.


49 posted on 12/18/2013 8:32:55 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013))
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To: B4Ranch
I said, when Zero was elected into the White Hut that I was having difficulty supporting the troops who chose to serve under his command. These days, that feeling still exists because they have had to reenlist to stay under his command. I understand that someone might not want to give up a career but when an out and out Communist takes command it is time to get out.

I'm much in the same boat as you but we need to support them although they are being used by a corrupted administration and now a corrupt country. Even so, I would not want any of my family or friends to join and I'm to the point where I would almost disown them (maybe not quite that far) if they do right now. One of my nieces (I have step-sisters and a step-brother) joined up and we (my father and I) are furious. My father was in the Army, just after Korea, and he tried to talk her out of it.

There are always the militias one can join.
50 posted on 12/18/2013 8:39:03 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013))
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