With the PLAN trying out their big boy britches, I would not be too surprised to see an incident or two similar to the Yorktown Vs. the Bezzavetnyy.
Posted on 12/13/2013 2:57:59 AM PST by markomalley
How small is America’s manufacturing base? In dollars.
“During the cold war, it was a common USN tactic to run support vessels into the path of Soviet trawlers who were shadowing the carrier groups too closely..”
What was the US Navy response to a Soviet guided missle cruiser shadowing a US Carrier ?
Nice post in 108.
But I think I will add that sending a ship like Cowpens to shadow the only Chinese carrier they have is provacative.
I want to say that having USA get into a shooting war with China has to be the best dream that Islamic nationalists could ever want. It would destroy western monetary system, and capitalism in general. It would also engage the Buddhists vs. the Christians leaving Islam in contro.
“Ponder these realities and think about how vital Japan, Korea and Taiwan are to basic US national interests.”
In a lot of ways, China and the USA along with Japan, Taiwan, etc. are all interconnected.
The countries that are isolated from the modern world are mostly islamic that produce nothing of value except for the oil that comes underneath their sand.
“Visio’s for example are an American company.”
Vizio was founded by a Taiwanese immigrant. He had good connections in Taiwan where most of the electronics are made. The glass is from Owens Corning in the USA. The final assembly is near Newport Beach CA where the founder has his home. I guess his commuting time is reduced.
How does one guy do all that assembly? lol
We[Conservatives , Christians and Jews are at the same stage the Jews in Germany were in 1934 and 35. The National Socialists Worker Party was foaming at the mouth daily saying what they intended to do the Jews. The Jew's response? Something to the effect that they did not mean what they were saying. This was just political talk and would soon blow over. History tells us what actually happened.
Obama and his minions are more subtle with their message, but they intend for the results to be the same. The Conservative's response? We got guns. So we do. The only problem with that is the Left no longer believes we have the will to use them.
I never said anything about ramming. That would play hell with the Cowpens’ bow sonar anyway. I was referring more to a traditional naval engagement. I can’t imagine that floating chinese bathtub being able to survive more than a couple of minutes in a slugging match with a missile cruiser. As noted upthread, the bow gun on the Cowpens is almost certainly capable of cutting the LST in half in short order all by itself, and that still leaves all this for the rest of the group:
2 × 61 cell Mk 41 vertical launch systems with:
122 × Mix of RIM-66M-5 Standard SM-2MR Block IIIB, RIM-156A SM-2ER Block IV, RIM-161 SM-3, RIM-162A ESSM, RIM-174A Standard ERAM, BGM-109 Tomahawk, or RUM-139A VL-ASROC
8 × RGM-84 Harpoon missiles
The other Mk 45 Mod 2 5 in / 54 cal lightweight gun
2 × 25 mm Mk 38 gun
2–4 × .50 cal (12.7 mm) gun
2 × Phalanx CIWS Block 1B
2 × Mk 32 12.75 in (324 mm) triple torpedo tubes for lightweight torpedoes
And lest we forget, the Cowpens still carries the stain of former Capt. Holly Graf.
Why are people different than goods and services? Seriously?
Doesn't a proponent of "free trade" also support the free movement of labor?
Nope. I'd happily eliminate 95% of the regulations added in the last 30 years while booting 95% of the illegals who came here in the last 30 years.
With the PLAN trying out their big boy britches, I would not be too surprised to see an incident or two similar to the Yorktown Vs. the Bezzavetnyy.
Chinese are willing to work hard and accurately at production jobs, unlike many US persons. Until that
changes we will be seeing “made in China” a lot.
Factories are not pleasant places to work.
Just a few love taps
President Barack Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping agreed to seek a new type of major power relationship during a summit in California earlier this year. However, the exact nature of the new relationship remains unclear
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I think the nature of the new relationship is BOHICA, with the USA grabbing it’s ankles so to speak, in a deep low bow to those friendly Chinese Military Types.
Oops! lol
Look at your post! You're the one rooting for it making you the traitor.
No, I believe the American worker is the best and that's why I don't fear free trade like you do.
If you don't get into management at some point you are worthless
No, who is more valuable to a company, a person that can run a machine the size of a barn, or a person that walks around writing stuff on a clipboard? In most cases the guy who runs the machine.
Offshoring production to a slavocracy and potential enemy is considered the height of freedom
Every nation on earth is a potential enemy. Under a better tax and regulation system, only the industries we can't do efficiently would be offshored, and those are usually the low-tech industries.
Displaced factory workers should just retrain to be brain surgeons and software engineers
Factory work is factory work. If you can do it you can do it, it usually doesn't matter what industry it is. You don't have to go to college to go from sheet metal to wood, or vice-versa.
The ChiComs are more free than we are.
Every people gets the government they fight for. If they are not free they need to fight, if they don't fight, then they don't have the motivation it takes to be free. That's why nation-building doesn't work. We're still more free than the Chinese but we still have that 2/3rds of the population we had in 1776 that either doesn't care or wants men like Obama to be dictators.
Question: “Are Vizio TV’s made in the USA?”
Answer: NO! Not one screw is turned in the states during assembly. They are made in China/Taiwan. According to the Vizio rep I spoke to, they are made to Vizio’s spec overseas. Vizio has absolutely no hand in the manufacturing of Vizio TV’s. Vizio gives the requirements to AmTran and they make them for from whatever parts fit the bill. The Vizio reps justification for this was that many other companies don’t make their own products, so why should Vizio? “AmTran is the best maker of HD televisions, which is why they were chosen by Vizio”.
The CEO of Vizio, William Wang, is the former owner of Princeton monitor company. Princeton went out of business a few years ago. This left Wang free to be the mastermind of Vizio televisions. Your “American Made” Vizio only employees about 100 employees in the states and has no say over the people or talent responsible for the Vizio phenomenon. Accoding to William Wang, Vizio aspires to be the next Sony by selling their discount televisions at Costco and Wal-Mart.
There is not one single FR member I'm in complete agreement with. No biggie.
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