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To: DoughtyOne
...t means for all intents and purposes you’re making an area of the wild non-accessible to humans.

Just curious. Are you saying that wild critters have no right to have any habitat all their own, i.e. being able to escape from people?

17 posted on 12/12/2013 6:06:23 PM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

” Are you saying that wild critters have no right to have any habitat all their own, i.e. being able to escape from people? “

Woof, WOOF - Straw Dog time.

Large bodied predators were once in fear for their lived because “they learned to their great regret that nearly every man and boy carried a rifle”.

When gunpowder speaks, beasts obey.

It is cruelly deceptive to allow large bodied predators to not have a mortal fear of man. When they do, they leave us alone - man and beast can then occupy the same habitat only after the issue of who is the apex predator is established beyond doubt.


23 posted on 12/12/2013 6:31:23 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: OldPossum

I’m not sure if you are aware of it, but the Left is all for loping off access to a lot of public land because humans damage it.

I believe nature was put there for us to enjoy. While I do like the idea of animals having access, if it comes to a choice, I’ll opt for humans first in the lower 48. In Canada or Alaska, I believe the areas are so sparsely populated that the animals come first.


32 posted on 12/12/2013 7:01:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Zero = zero)
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To: OldPossum; DoughtyOne
Are you saying that wild critters have no right to have any habitat all their own, i.e. being able to escape from people?

I am. They are useful or they are not. The system was under anthropogenic management when white explorers arrived and distorted it to fit their 18th Century idea of "nature" as a self-optimizing system containing no people. It doesn't work.

Further, to confer "rights" to anything other than people is to set oneself up to be the guarantor of those rights exclusive against any competing claim. Who made you king? I promise you, there were fewer grizzlies there before European crowd diseases infested that area than there are today. If you don't believe that, then what happened to the dire wolf or the short-faced bear?

After being in North America for 22 glacial cycles, they suddenly disappeared soon after Clovis Man invaded the continent.

49 posted on 12/16/2013 8:49:53 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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