[MikefromOhio]

You are dreaming. The kenyan will just veto anything a hypothetical GOP Congress would pass. We are stuck with this “budget” through the beginning of 2016 campaign since the GOP has made clear no more shutdowns.

That actually was the point of all this. The GOP have decided to take a powder through 2016. There will be no serious engagement of the Dems on anything of substance while the kenyan is in the WH.

Don't think for a second this deal won't be revisited by whoever wins the 2014 midterms. Don't be naive. Whether or not anything comes of it we'll see.

There is a difference between conservative politics and electoral politics. The GOP has always had an issue in determining when to use which - one wins supporters, the other wins elections. It's basically 2014, it's time to win elections. The leftists have understood this since 1994.

[lodi90]

There is a difference between conservative politics and electoral politics.

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The GOP won’t win elections being bystanders and that is what the game plan is now. Same old loser tip toe to the election strategy.

Just now instead of surrendering on the current battle they chose to preemptively surrender on the entire campaign. Boehner took the McConnell CR surrender plan and put it on steroids.

Sorry FRiend, there is nothing new here from the GOP. The leadership has been invisible on IRS, NSA, Obamacare, etc., etc. They expect the electorate to do the heavy lifting for them and that is a sure fire loser strategy. Democrats never wait for the next election. They fight every day for every inch. That’s how you win.

[ilgipper]

Weird. When our side acts like conservatives and not democrats we win elections. There were more than two options here. It isn’t this bill or shutdown.

My only reason for not caring too much about this failure is that this current leadership team is so massively incompetent, I doubt they can do much better under any scenario.

We are at a point of no confidence in the party leadership. The only thing that will cost us the midterm is complete disgust and another complete failure by the senate campaign apparatus that has been a disaster for two cycles.