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FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 640
clerk of the House ^ | 12/12/2013 | Clerk of House

Posted on 12/12/2013 3:53:59 PM PST by Gipper08

Ayes Noes PRES NV Republican 169 62 1 Democratic 163 32 6 Independent TOTALS 332 94 7

---- AYES 332 ---

Aderholt Amodei Andrews Bachus Barber Barletta Barr Barrow (GA) Beatty Becerra Benishek Bera (CA) Bilirakis Bishop (NY) Bishop (UT) Black Blackburn Blumenauer Boehner Bonamici Boustany Brady (PA) Brady (TX) Braley (IA) Brooks (IN) Brownley (CA) Buchanan Bucshon Bustos Butterfield Calvert Camp Campbell Cantor Capito Capps Capuano Cárdenas Carney Carson (IN) Carter Cartwright Cassidy Castor (FL) Chaffetz Clark (MA) Clay Cleaver Clyburn Coble Cohen Cole Collins (GA) Collins (NY) Conaway Connolly Cook Cooper Costa Courtney Cramer Crenshaw Crowley Cuellar Culberson Cummings Davis (CA) Davis, Rodney DeGette Delaney DelBene Denham Dent Deutch Diaz-Balart Dingell Doggett Doyle Duckworth Duffy Edwards Ellmers Engel Enyart Eshoo Esty Farenthold Farr Fattah Fincher Fitzpatrick Fleischmann Fleming Flores Forbes Fortenberry Foster Foxx Frelinghuysen Gabbard Gallego Garamendi Garcia Gerlach Gibbs Gibson Goodlatte Granger Graves (GA) Graves (MO) Grayson Green, Al Green, Gene Griffin (AR) Griffith (VA) Grimm Guthrie Gutiérrez Hahn Hanna Harper Hartzler Hastings (FL) Hastings (WA) Heck (WA) Hensarling Herrera Beutler Higgins Himes Hinojosa Honda Horsford Hudson Huffman Huizenga (MI) Hultgren Hunter Hurt Israel Issa Jackson Lee Jeffries Jenkins Johnson (GA) Johnson (OH) Johnson, E. B. Joyce Kaptur Keating Kelly (IL) Kelly (PA) Kennedy Kildee Kilmer Kind King (NY) Kinzinger (IL) Kirkpatrick Kline Kuster LaMalfa Lamborn Lance Langevin Lankford Larsen (WA) Larson (CT) Latham Latta Lewis Lipinski LoBiondo Loebsack Lofgren Lowenthal Lowey Lucas Luetkemeyer Lujan Grisham (NM) Luján, Ben Ray (NM) Lynch Maffei Maloney, Carolyn Maloney, Sean Marino Matheson Matsui McAllister McCarthy (CA) McCaul McCollum McDermott McGovern McHenry McKeon McMorris Rodgers McNerney Meehan Meeks Meng Messer Mica Michaud Miller (FL) Miller (MI) Miller, Gary Miller, George Moore Moran Murphy (FL) Murphy (PA) Nadler Napolitano Neal Noem Nolan Nunes Nunnelee O'Rourke Owens Palazzo Pascrell Pastor (AZ) Paulsen Payne Pelosi Perlmutter Perry Peters (CA) Peters (MI) Peterson Petri Pittenger Pitts Polis Price (GA) Price (NC) Quigley Rahall Rangel Reed Reichert Renacci Ribble Rice (SC) Rigell Roby Roe (TN) Rogers (AL) Rogers (KY) Rogers (MI) Rokita Rooney Ros-Lehtinen Roskam Ross Rothfus Roybal-Allard Royce Ruiz Runyan Ruppersberger Ryan (OH) Ryan (WI) Sarbanes Schiff Schneider Schock Schwartz Scott (VA) Scott, Austin Scott, David Sensenbrenner Serrano Sessions Sewell (AL) Shea-Porter Sherman Shimkus Shuster Simpson Sinema Sires Smith (NJ) Smith (TX) Smith (WA) Southerland Speier Stewart Stivers Stutzman Swalwell (CA) Takano Terry Thompson (CA) Thompson (PA) Thornberry Tiberi Tierney Tipton Titus Tonko Tsongas Turner Upton Valadao Van Hollen Vargas Veasey Vela Wagner Walberg Walden Walorski Walz Wasserman Schultz Waxman Welch Westmoreland Whitfield Williams Wilson (FL) Wilson (SC) Wittman Wolf Womack Woodall Yarmuth Yoder Yoho Young (AK) Young (IN)

---- NOES 94 ---

Amash Bachmann Barton Bass Bentivolio Bridenstine Brooks (AL) Broun (GA) Burgess Chabot Chu Cicilline Clarke (NY) Coffman Conyers Cotton Crawford Daines DeFazio DeLauro DeSantis DesJarlais Duncan (SC) Duncan (TN) Ellison Frankel (FL) Franks (AZ) Fudge Gardner Garrett Gingrey (GA) Gohmert Gosar Gowdy Grijalva Hall Hanabusa Harris Heck (NV) Holding Holt Hoyer Huelskamp Johnson, Sam Jones Jordan King (IA) Kingston Labrador Lee (CA) Levin Long Lummis Marchant Massie McClintock McIntyre McKinley Meadows Mullin Mulvaney Negrete McLeod Neugebauer Nugent Olson Pallone Pearce Pingree (ME) Pocan Poe (TX) Pompeo Posey Richmond Rohrabacher Salmon Sánchez, Linda T. Sanchez, Loretta Sanford Scalise Schakowsky Schrader Schweikert Slaughter Smith (MO) Smith (NE) Stockman Thompson (MS) Velázquez Visclosky Waters Watt Weber (TX) Webster (FL) Wenstrup


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
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Boehner has teamed with Obama to add three trillion to the debt since becoming Speaker. We need to wake up and thank the Republicans voting no and PRIMARY the Republicans voting yes.
1 posted on 12/12/2013 3:53:59 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: Gipper08

My pathetic rep Granger. She’ll be getting a phone call or two, or three, or four over this betrayal.


2 posted on 12/12/2013 3:56:03 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
Yep. I'll be calling Kay's office tomorrow.

/johnny

3 posted on 12/12/2013 3:59:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: fwdude

Burgess voted No. Good for him.


4 posted on 12/12/2013 3:59:50 PM PST by rstrahan
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To: Gipper08

The next bill to pass will be the extension of unemployment benefits, followed by an amnesty.


5 posted on 12/12/2013 3:59:56 PM PST by kabar
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To: Gipper08

Ryan is heading this budget to make political friends on his way to the campaign trail.


6 posted on 12/12/2013 4:00:06 PM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: Gipper08

The Republican PATRIOTS:

Amash
Bachmann
Barton
Bentivolio
Bridenstine
Brooks (AL)
Broun (GA)
Burgess
Chabot
Coffman
Cotton
Crawford
Daines
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Franks (AZ)
Gardner
Garrett
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert Gosar
Gowdy
Hall
Harris
Heck (NV)
Holding
Huelskamp
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Jordan
King (IA)
Kingston
Labrador
Long
Lummis
Marchant
Massie
McClintock
McKinley
Meadows
Mullin
Mulvaney
Neugebauer
Nugent Olson
Pearce
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Rohrabacher
Salmon
Sanford
Scalise
Schweikert
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Stockman
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup


7 posted on 12/12/2013 4:01:11 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: Gipper08

My new congressman, Brad Wenstrup, a vet and combat surgeon, across town from John Boehner, makes Boehner look like a dunce.

This is his first term and he voted right on this one. And on each other I’ve written him on. He supported every Cruz vote during the Obama shutdown of the government.

Wonder if he could talk sense to Boehner?


8 posted on 12/12/2013 4:02:11 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Gipper08

Formatted list:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll640.xml

This is the only vote by my congressman that is totally unacceptable.
Consider though that once the Leadership told Ryan to pass it from the committee that there was then no way to stop it.

It’s an awful bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquery/T?&report=hr290&dbname=113&;


9 posted on 12/12/2013 4:04:41 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: arderkrag

The GOPe is making it sound like the choice was between a government shutdown or this deal. In fact, the other choice was to pass a clean CR, which would have kept the sequester intact and not increase spending.


10 posted on 12/12/2013 4:05:41 PM PST by kabar
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To: Gipper08

Toad Young (IN) yea

Looks like we got rid of Robber Barron Hill just to put a another toady in place. *sigh*


11 posted on 12/12/2013 4:08:11 PM PST by Gasshog (These introductions of non-native species have consequences, like allowing Obama back into the U.S.)
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To: Gasshog

yep. Todd Young is one of the worst ever. Got a seat on Ways and Means as a Sophomore. That does not happen unless you are an establishment puppet.


12 posted on 12/12/2013 4:09:59 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: kabar

at the minimum...or demand a 5% cut and let Obama pick the cuts...


13 posted on 12/12/2013 4:10:44 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: Gipper08

My dog-a$$ rep voted for this piece of drivel.

Time to pen a nastygram...


14 posted on 12/12/2013 4:11:06 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: PubliusMM

use the word primary challenger in it!


15 posted on 12/12/2013 4:11:50 PM PST by Gipper08
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To: Gipper08

Let’s also thank these conservative Democrats for voting “NO” on this liberal boondoggle:

Bass (D-CA)
Chu (D-CA)
Cicilline (D-RI)
Clarke (D-NY)
Conyers (D-MI)
DeFazio (D-OR)
DeLauro (D-CT)
Ellison (D-MN)
Frankel (D-FL)
Fudge (D-OH)
Grijalva (D-AZ)
Hanabusa (D-HI)
Hoyer (D-MD)
Lee (D-CA)
Levin (D-MI)
Negrete McLeod (D-CA)
Pallone (D-NJ)
Pingree (D-ME)
Pocan (D-WI)
Richmond (D-LA)
Sánchez, Linda T. (D-CA)
Sanchez, Loretta (D-CA)
Schakowsky (D-IL)
Schrader (D-OR)
Slaughter (D-NY)
Thompson (D-MS)
Velázquez (D-NY)
Visclosky (D-IN)
Waters (D-CA)
Watt (D-NC)

Oh, wait ....


16 posted on 12/12/2013 4:13:34 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what ma kes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: arderkrag
Ryan is heading this budget to make political friends on his way to the campaign trail.

He's angling his way up the GOPe food chain so one day he too can be Speaker just like his mentor Johnny the Weeper.

17 posted on 12/12/2013 4:13:59 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Gipper08

The band is warming up on the deck of the Titanic. Republicans are the new Democrat Lite


18 posted on 12/12/2013 4:17:14 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Gipper08
CLICK



---- AYES    332 ---

Aderholt
Amodei
Andrews
Bachus
Barber
Barletta
Barr
Barrow (GA)
Beatty
Becerra
Benishek
Bera (CA)
Bilirakis
Bishop (NY)
Bishop (UT)
Black
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Boehner
Bonamici
Boustany
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Braley (IA)
Brooks (IN)
Brownley (CA)
Buchanan
Bucshon
Bustos
Butterfield
Calvert
Camp
Campbell
Cantor
Capito
Capps
Capuano
Cárdenas
Carney
Carson (IN)
Carter
Cartwright
Cassidy
Castor (FL)
Chaffetz
Clark (MA)
Clay
Cleaver
Clyburn
Coble
Cohen
Cole
Collins (GA)
Collins (NY)
Conaway
Connolly
Cook
Cooper
Costa
Courtney
Cramer
Crenshaw
Crowley
Cuellar
Culberson
Cummings
Davis (CA)
Davis, Rodney
DeGette
Delaney
DelBene
Denham
Dent
Deutch
Diaz-Balart
Dingell
Doggett
Doyle
Duckworth
Duffy
Edwards
Ellmers
Engel
Enyart
Eshoo
Esty
Farenthold
Farr
Fattah
Fincher
Fitzpatrick
Fleischmann
Fleming
Flores
Forbes
Fortenberry
Foster
Foxx
Frelinghuysen
Gabbard
Gallego
Garamendi
Garcia
Gerlach
Gibbs
Gibson
Goodlatte
Granger
Graves (GA)
Graves (MO)
Grayson
Green, Al
Green, Gene
Griffin (AR)
Griffith (VA)
Grimm
Guthrie
Gutiérrez
Hahn
Hanna
Harper
Hartzler
Hastings (FL)
Hastings (WA)
Heck (WA)
Hensarling
Herrera Beutler
Higgins
Himes
Hinojosa
Honda
Horsford
Hudson
Huffman
Huizenga (MI)
Hultgren
Hunter
Hurt
Israel
Issa
Jackson Lee
Jeffries
Jenkins
Johnson (GA)
Johnson (OH)
Johnson, E. B.
Joyce
Kaptur
Keating
Kelly (IL)
Kelly (PA)
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilmer
Kind
King (NY)
Kinzinger (IL)
Kirkpatrick
Kline
Kuster
LaMalfa
Lamborn
Lance
Langevin
Lankford
Larsen (WA)
Larson (CT)
Latham
Latta
Lewis
Lipinski
LoBiondo
Loebsack
Lofgren
Lowenthal
Lowey
Lucas
Luetkemeyer
Lujan Grisham (NM)
Luján, Ben Ray (NM)
Lynch
Maffei
Maloney, Carolyn
Maloney, Sean
Marino
Matheson
Matsui
McAllister
McCarthy (CA)
McCaul
McCollum
McDermott
McGovern
McHenry
McKeon
McMorris Rodgers
McNerney
Meehan
Meeks
Meng
Messer
Mica
Michaud
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
Miller, Gary
Miller, George
Moore
Moran
Murphy (FL)
Murphy (PA)
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Noem
Nolan
Nunes
Nunnelee
O'Rourke
Owens
Palazzo
Pascrell
Pastor (AZ)
Paulsen
Payne
Pelosi
Perlmutter
Perry
Peters (CA)
Peters (MI)
Peterson
Petri
Pittenger
Pitts
Polis
Price (GA)
Price (NC)
Quigley
Rahall
Rangel
Reed
Reichert
Renacci
Ribble
Rice (SC)
Rigell
Roby
Roe (TN)
Rogers (AL)
Rogers (KY)
Rogers (MI)
Rokita
Rooney
Ros-Lehtinen
Roskam
Ross
Rothfus
Roybal-Allard
Royce
Ruiz
Runyan
Ruppersberger
Ryan (OH)
Ryan (WI)
Sarbanes
Schiff
Schneider
Schock
Schwartz
Scott (VA)
Scott, Austin
Scott, David
Sensenbrenner
Serrano
Sessions
Sewell (AL)
Shea-Porter
Sherman
Shimkus
Shuster
Simpson
Sinema
Sires
Smith (NJ)
Smith (TX)
Smith (WA)
Southerland
Speier
Stewart
Stivers
Stutzman
Swalwell (CA)
Takano
Terry
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (PA)
Thornberry
Tiberi
Tierney
Tipton
Titus
Tonko
Tsongas
Turner
Upton
Valadao
Van Hollen
Vargas
Veasey
Vela
Wagner
Walberg
Walden
Walorski
Walz
Wasserman Schultz
Waxman
Welch
Westmoreland
Whitfield
Williams
Wilson (FL)
Wilson (SC)
Wittman
Wolf
Womack
Woodall
Yarmuth
Yoder
Yoho
Young (AK)
Young (IN)

---- NOES    94 ---

Amash
Bachmann
Barton
Bass
Bentivolio
Bridenstine
Brooks (AL)
Broun (GA)
Burgess
Chabot
Chu
Cicilline
Clarke (NY)
Coffman
Conyers
Cotton
Crawford
Daines
DeFazio
DeLauro
DeSantis
DesJarlais
Duncan (SC)
Duncan (TN)
Ellison
Frankel (FL)
Franks (AZ)
Fudge
Gardner
Garrett
Gingrey (GA)
Gohmert
Gosar
Gowdy
Grijalva
Hall
Hanabusa
Harris
Heck (NV)
Holding
Holt
Hoyer
Huelskamp
Johnson, Sam
Jones
Jordan
King (IA)
Kingston
Labrador
Lee (CA)
Levin
Long
Lummis
Marchant
Massie
McClintock
McIntyre
McKinley
Meadows
Mullin
Mulvaney
Negrete McLeod
Neugebauer
Nugent
Olson
Pallone
Pearce
Pingree (ME)
Pocan
Poe (TX)
Pompeo
Posey
Richmond
Rohrabacher
Salmon
Sánchez, Linda T.
Sanchez, Loretta
Sanford
Scalise
Schakowsky
Schrader
Schweikert
Slaughter
Smith (MO)
Smith (NE)
Stockman
Thompson (MS)
Velázquez
Visclosky
Waters
Watt
Weber (TX)
Webster (FL)
Wenstrup

---- NOT VOTING    7 ---

Bishop (GA)
Brown (FL)
Castro (TX)
Davis, Danny
McCarthy (NY)
Radel
Rush



19 posted on 12/12/2013 4:18:01 PM PST by deport
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To: fwdude

Just like Kevin Brady RINO (TX) to vote Democrat.


21 posted on 12/12/2013 4:19:50 PM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Gipper08

Good on Gosar, Salmon and Franks.


22 posted on 12/12/2013 4:22:16 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: fwdude

Granger is a former mayor of Fort Worth, and people there think she is infallible.


23 posted on 12/12/2013 4:23:30 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: Gipper08

MY REP WAS A NO! WOOHOO!


24 posted on 12/12/2013 4:24:10 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: broken_arrow1

Louisiana’s newest member, Vance McAllister, though to be a real conservatives, voted with Boehner. McAllister’s opponent, thought to be Boehner’s choice in the race, was not there to vote of course.


25 posted on 12/12/2013 4:26:35 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: Gipper08

Harris is my rep. Proud to see he voted “no”.


26 posted on 12/12/2013 4:26:58 PM PST by Bigg Red (He gives power to the faint, and to him who has no might he increases strength.--Is 40)
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To: Theodore R.

Anybody that thought that fraud was a Conservative has rice pudding for brains.


27 posted on 12/12/2013 4:38:13 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Gipper08

Rohrbacher No..he’s always pretty solid.


28 posted on 12/12/2013 4:48:52 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: Gipper08; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; A Strict Constructionist; ...
South Carolina Ping
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Keep up with what our Congresscritters (House and Senate) are doing. Sign up for the free MegaVote email service here.

Here's the way our SC Reps voted:

          Yes   No
Wilson     x
Gowdy            x
Duncan           x
Mulvaney         x
Sanford          x
Rice       x
Clyburn    x
Clyburn can sorta be forgiven since he's our token RAT. But what's wrong with Wilson and Rice?
29 posted on 12/12/2013 4:49:11 PM PST by upchuck (I can't stand people that don't know the difference between 'than' and 'then.' Their so stupid...)
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To: Gipper08

Damn it, Robert Hurt caved.


30 posted on 12/12/2013 4:51:57 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Gipper08

A deal two year that will be ripped up the moment the new Congress is seated in 2015.

I’m glad the GOP finally wised up to electoral realities and took an issue off of the table for the leftists to whine about all summer long.

Patience people, patience. The GOPers, either through a blind squirrel finding a nut or sheer dumb luck, are finally playing the same stupid game the Dems do in election years.

Win the election, fix the system. Taking the budget battle away from the Leftists now instead of letting it fester into 2014 is smart - IF that’s what happens when they take both houses of Congress in 2015.


31 posted on 12/12/2013 4:53:15 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: upchuck

So Joe “You Lie” Wilson voted to throw us military retiree’s under the bus. Looks like I’ll be voting third party in November.


32 posted on 12/12/2013 5:00:39 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Gipper08
And we sell off yet another part of our grandchildren's legacy and inheritance. What kind of chaos of a country are they going to inherit??? We sold our children's legacy log ago.

Future generations are going to curse us to hell for what we've done to them.

33 posted on 12/12/2013 5:16:29 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (OCare: 500 million lines of code (it took just 500 thousand lines of code to send a rover to Mars))
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To: COBOL2Java
He's angling his way up the GOPe food chain so one day he too can be Speaker just like his mentor Johnny the Weeper.

I think this explains the GOP capitulation. They expect Ryan to be the next Speaker and are currying favor in hopes of getting plum cmte positions. I intend to tell my rep that I will not support him if he supports Ryan.

34 posted on 12/12/2013 5:20:30 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: MikefromOhio

A deal two year that will be ripped up the moment the new Congress is seated in 2015.


You are dreaming. The kenyan will just veto anything a hypothetical GOP Congress would pass. We are stuck with this “budget” through the beginning of 2016 campaign since the GOP has made clear no more shutdowns.

That actually was the point of all this. The GOP have decided to take a powder through 2016. There will be no serious engagement of the Dems on anything of substance while the kenyan is in the WH.


35 posted on 12/12/2013 5:31:16 PM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90
You are dreaming. The kenyan will just veto anything a hypothetical GOP Congress would pass. We are stuck with this “budget” through the beginning of 2016 campaign since the GOP has made clear no more shutdowns.

That actually was the point of all this. The GOP have decided to take a powder through 2016. There will be no serious engagement of the Dems on anything of substance while the kenyan is in the WH.


Don't think for a second this deal won't be revisited by whoever wins the 2014 midterms. Don't be naive. Whether or not anything comes of it we'll see.

There is a difference between conservative politics and electoral politics. The GOP has always had an issue in determining when to use which - one wins supporters, the other wins elections. It's basically 2014, it's time to win elections. The leftists have understood this since 1994.
36 posted on 12/12/2013 5:39:41 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: MikefromOhio
Win the election, fix the system.

Don't tell me this is your first rodeo...

37 posted on 12/12/2013 5:40:44 PM PST by mcmuffin (Freedom's On The March - Wave Goodbye!)
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To: Gipper08

If I were a liberal Democrat in 2013, I’d be laughing and crapping on everyone too.


38 posted on 12/12/2013 5:55:15 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Gipper08

Bump for Ohio 4th District Rep. Jim Jordan!


39 posted on 12/12/2013 5:57:37 PM PST by Deadeye Division
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To: Gipper08

I am so confused. I thought that Pelosi said this was a crap sandwich but yet she voted for it. This can’t be good if she complains but decides to vote for it.


40 posted on 12/12/2013 5:59:28 PM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Gasshog
Peace, Gasshog,

Toad Young (IN) yea

Looks like we got rid of Robber Barron Hill just to put a another toady in place. *sigh*

Fortunately, IN9 will have a strict contructionist, limited government, State sovereignty option next year.


James R. McClure Jr.
Jeffersonian Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9

41 posted on 12/12/2013 6:00:16 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: MikefromOhio

There is a difference between conservative politics and electoral politics.


The GOP won’t win elections being bystanders and that is what the game plan is now. Same old loser tip toe to the election strategy.

Just now instead of surrendering on the current battle they chose to preemptively surrender on the entire campaign. Boehner took the McConnell CR surrender plan and put it on steroids.

Sorry FRiend, there is nothing new here from the GOP. The leadership has been invisible on IRS, NSA, Obamacare, etc., etc. They expect the electorate to do the heavy lifting for them and that is a sure fire loser strategy. Democrats never wait for the next election. They fight every day for every inch. That’s how you win.


42 posted on 12/12/2013 6:04:08 PM PST by lodi90
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To: JRandomFreeper

My Rep John Carter (R) just sent out a mailer two weeks ago touting that he is working to hold the line on Federal spending. Now he votes for this monstrosity in order to “save” Fort Hood. Another deal with the devil.


43 posted on 12/12/2013 6:11:14 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: lodi90

If you like being permanently in the minority be my guest.

Another government shutdown was and is an immediate loser for the GOP at-large. Sure some more conservative districts wouldn’t change a dot, but a lot of the GOP districts (I’m in Tiberi’s BTW) are already trending more purpleish, and losing those districts gives Peloser another chance at being Speaker.

No thanks, I’ll pass, even if it means a 2 year budget deal that sucks - just to avoid that scenario.


44 posted on 12/12/2013 6:19:13 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: mcmuffin
Don't tell me this is your first rodeo...

If the GOP and the conservative wing of the GOP isn't willing to play the same game as the Democrats, why even run for elections? 1-5% doesn't win elections. FR's membership isn't nearly big enough to influence anything - remember that your focus on the issue is to the right of about 85% of the population and about 95% of the voting public.

It's just reality. Another shutdown was an instant loser for the GOP in anything but the most conservative districts. If you don't see that, this must be your first rodeo.
45 posted on 12/12/2013 6:21:37 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: Gipper08; cripplecreek

I’m surprised Tim voted for it. I expected better from him.


46 posted on 12/12/2013 6:30:23 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Gipper08

Although a hero for his time as a Vietnam POW, Rep. Sam Johnson (RINO - TX) doesn’t deserve applause on this vote.

Johnson has gone full blown amnesty in a way that would make Marco Rubio blush. Johnson is a crony capitalist but not a conservative.

Frankly, his “representation” is a good example for term limits.


47 posted on 12/12/2013 6:39:49 PM PST by peyton randolph (Tagline copyright in violation of Directive 10-289)
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To: Gipper08

More rinos voted aye than dems? Am I reading that right or have a bad link?


48 posted on 12/12/2013 6:46:08 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: JRandomFreeper
Kevin Brady of Texas voted for it. What a freakin RINO!

This guy is my rep. I'll vote for the dog catcher before I'll ever cast a vote for him.

49 posted on 12/12/2013 6:50:14 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: MikefromOhio

If you like being permanently in the minority be my guest.

Another government shutdown was and is an immediate loser for the GOP at-large. Sure some more conservative districts wouldn’t change a dot, but a lot of the GOP districts (I’m in Tiberi’s BTW) are already trending more purpleish, and losing those districts gives Peloser another chance at being Speaker.

No thanks, I’ll pass, even if it means a 2 year budget deal that sucks - just to avoid that scenario.


I never said blindly shutdown the government. I said engage the Democrats. Boehner & McConnell steadfastly refused to do so for years. They will not suddenly be an engaged opposition party in 2014. McConnell already let slip we need to wait until 2016.

The Dems are already messaging their voters for 2014. What exact is the GOP strategy now for 2014? There is none other than tell us they want to repeal obamacare (after funding it again). They have deliberately removed what little leverage points they had fully funding everything.

Other than hold a debate club on The Hill the GOP has no game plan. That’s not how you beat rampaging marxists. You need to see that the beltway GOP is totally content in the minority with Obama in the WH.

The problem is inside the beltway. Stop blaming conservatives call a spade a spade.


50 posted on 12/12/2013 6:57:06 PM PST by lodi90
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