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Ryan’s Rope: The budget chairman hangs conservatives out to dry.
nat review ^ | 12/12/13 | q hillyer

Posted on 12/12/2013 5:26:14 AM PST by bestintxas

House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan has now accomplished the astonishing task of pushing House Republicans substantially to the left of the Senate GOP. His budget deal, announced Tuesday night, was achieved by shutting conservative Senate Republicans out of negotiations, by resorting to the old trick of spending now while claiming savings later, by ignoring a symbolically important budgetary red line, and by treating as Democratic “concessions” things to which even Democratic budgeteers already had agreed.

The chess equivalent of Ryan’s deal would be trading a castle for a mere pawn. No wonder conservatives are feeling rooked.

One need not have been a “de-funder” absolutist (I wasn’t one) to oppose this agreement. First, though, perhaps a little historical perspective is in order. In the long run, the realistic conservative “baseline” for domestic appropriations should be fiscal year 2000 — the last full “normal” budget that was signed by President Bill Clinton, certainly no hard-hearted slouch in the empathy department. It was the final year in which Clinton and the then-Republican Congress were in a political stasis, with neither having a marked advantage because both were battered and bruised by the just-concluded impeachment process; it was also a year, arithmetically, where spending came in at a point between the heady first two years of the “Gingrich Congress” and the full-fledged spending blowout for fiscal year 2001 (legislated in calendar year 2000) in which both parties lost all restraint while trying to buy voting constituencies for the knife’s-edge Bush–Gore election year.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ryan; ryanmurraybudget
we have been swindled thinking this young progressive was a clever addition to the GOP conservative team.

He is a RINO.

q: are the people in Wisconsin intending to primary him?

1 posted on 12/12/2013 5:26:14 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

probably not but the rest of the country can make sure he doesn’t have enough votes to ever be in leadership again


2 posted on 12/12/2013 5:31:09 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

He agreed to tax increases as well in this deal with Patty Murray under the guise of “fee increases”.

Ryan doesn’t care about conservatives. He wants to reach the disillusioned non-conservative voter who’s been hurt by Obamacare and look “bipartisan”.


3 posted on 12/12/2013 5:37:43 AM PST by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN)
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To: Nextrush

Ryan will reach no one…..If he is looking towards ‘a higher office’ he will still have to make it through the primaries and conservatives will do everything to make sure he ain’t the candidate


4 posted on 12/12/2013 5:40:12 AM PST by Nifster
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To: bestintxas

Paul Ryan proved to be a lightweight.


5 posted on 12/12/2013 5:43:08 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Nextrush

What a waste. He turned the wrong way after the 2012 election and has become a shill for Washington status quo. He wasn’t perfect before, but he was a leader for change pre-2012.


6 posted on 12/12/2013 5:46:40 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: Nifster

Its housecleaning time.

No RINO including my governor (Tom Corbett) who just raised fees, fines and created a new wholesale tax that will drive gas prices up 28 cents a gallon will get my vote next
year.

And that’s in any election including the general.


7 posted on 12/12/2013 5:47:57 AM PST by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN)
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To: bestintxas
Wait a second...

This Ryan bashing makes me so sad” said Nichol Wallace on The Morning Joe

How about Ryan's 10 year Balanced Budget resolution that reforms Medicare by leaving it exactly as ir is for another 10 years and cuts taxes at the same time??

And he said he reforms Medicare without affecting anyone over 65... when only those over 65 get medicare.

Who says there is no GOP Santa Claus ??

8 posted on 12/12/2013 5:48:26 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: bestintxas

I reached the point a while back where the betrayals don’t surprise me any more; I pretty much expect them to happen. If the day ever comes when we’re NOT betrayed, I might die of shock.


9 posted on 12/12/2013 5:58:12 AM PST by jpl (The government spent another half a million bucks in the time it just took you to read this tagline.)
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To: bestintxas

Well I hope Ryan is happy in the Congress because he has cut his throat as far as ever running for President. I wasn’t impressed with his first budget attempt so I’m not shocked that he has now surrendered to the Dems and is cutting the Sequester loose. Possibly the only real cost cutting to go into effect in recent years.

The GOP is just as invested in big govt as the Dems. Poor old Mark Levin came to a sudden realization yesterday after interviewing Ryan on his radio show. He now realizes a total economic collapse will not be avoided as neither party will ever cut spending or reduce the size of govt willingly. I almost felt sorry for Mark yesterday.


10 posted on 12/12/2013 6:14:02 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I had thought that Ryan was smarter than this. Do these people really think the FED can print a trillion dollars a year to buy treasuries for another 9 years? At some point really nasty inflation hits and we the people won’t be able to buy groceries.


11 posted on 12/12/2013 6:24:44 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: bestintxas

I got to see a laundry list of who in just one state will be hit by a second round of sequestration. What really stands out is that they are almost all “takers” from the economy, not people who “give” to the economy. Once you notice that, any sympathy that “people” will be harmed by a second round of sequestration takes a big hit.

Here is the laundry list. Fewer federal dollars for:

The state’s defense contractors.

Head Start programs.

Public schools that serve low-income students.

Indian tribes.

Research at the state’s universities. (Actually, it would stop the planned *doubling* of current research funding from $1b to $2b a year. A lot of sequestration only cuts the rate of growth, not actual cuts.)

Nutrition programs for senior citizens.

Public health services.

National parks. (Land taken from the states.)

Subsidized housing for poor families.

The state FBI District will furlough agents and civilian employees. (This office was deeply involved in the Fast & Furious scandal.)

Shorter public school tutoring hours, fewer math and reading aids, and fewer teachers.

The Section 8 program, which provides rent subsidies.

It would require federal workers to pay more into pension plans.

Importantly, the deal does not extend long-term federal unemployment insurance, which some want added to the deal later in conference committee.


12 posted on 12/12/2013 6:39:00 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: bestintxas

You must admit - Ryan did put on a pretty good imitation of a conservative when he ran for Vice President and wanted our votes.

/s


13 posted on 12/12/2013 6:43:31 AM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: bestintxas

Just heard Ryan on the news. He said, “It was the best deal we could get.”

Now where have we heard that before? That’s right, it is one of Boehner’s favorite lines (as he bends over one more time for the Democrats).


14 posted on 12/12/2013 7:18:17 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: bestintxas
Ryan's "deal" is what happens, when you start operating out of fear, when you set your "goal" as avoiding a "government shutdown" at all costs. Cowardice plus throwing all your leverage overboard equals collapse into Democrat Party Statism.

How is the GOP different from the Democreeps with this deal? If you have Mitch McConnell saying he won't vote for this turd, you've lost everyone to the right of Obama. Insanity. Political insanity.

15 posted on 12/12/2013 7:29:13 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Saban said it’s not that people set their goals high and miss. It’s that they set their goals low and hit. Describes the gop.


16 posted on 12/12/2013 7:42:15 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: bestintxas

Mr. Ryan isn’t very smart. He had his (our) hat handed to him during the negotiations. Its best that he stay in Congress so he can be monitored because we wouldn’t want him in some position of authority or safety... like a crossing guard or something.


17 posted on 12/12/2013 7:51:59 AM PST by Mashood
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To: jpl
I reached the point a while back where the betrayals don’t surprise me any more; I pretty much expect them to happen. If the day ever comes when we’re NOT betrayed, I might die of shock.

It's a long march; for every Ted Cruz we send to DC, I'm comfortable with 2-3 "unviable" candidates that take out incumbents in the primaries.

18 posted on 12/12/2013 7:56:46 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Iron Munro

“You must admit - Ryan did put on a pretty good imitation of a conservative when he ran for Vice President and wanted our votes.”

Am starting to think it might be impossible for conservatives to come from certain parts of the country

Name the staunch conservatives who have come from the northeast/ north central us in last 25 years?


19 posted on 12/12/2013 3:03:19 PM PST by bestintxas (Obamacare = Obamascrewed)
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