Posted on 12/11/2013 10:10:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
It’s never to late for a lawsuit. In order to have one, the plaintiff needs to show harm. There’s plenty of harm evident now that O-care is rolling out. I suppose a State could try to sue on behalf of its citizens. Maybe a real lawyer could opine on this.
It’s never to late for a lawsuit. In order to have one, the plaintiff needs to show harm. There’s plenty of harm evident now that O-care is rolling out. I suppose a State could try to sue on behalf of its citizens. Maybe a real lawyer could opine on this.
I don’t give a rats behind! He could have killed it and didn’t, plain and simple. As long as I am on Gods green earth, I will remember him as the chief enabler who allowed socialism full control of the USA.
Roberts is a traitor and a man who violated a sacred oath to support and defend the Constitution, but he is comparatively low on the scale of evil. Betrayal just hurts more than opposition from a known enemy.
"I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as _________ under the Constitution and laws of the United States; and that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."
That alone would not be enough. Whatever it is, it is either even more universally excoriated, or cause for prosecution.
No, Judge Roberts. By your definition, all fees, fines and penalties are taxes. That’s a load of crap. Any difficulty separating taxes, fees, fines, and penalties can be removed by relying on the definition within the legislation itself:
>> In the dissent, Scalia1 says this is horseshit. The law itself repeatedly calls it a penalty, it’s not primarily designed to raise revenue, and it is plainly designed to punish people who decline to buy insurance. “We cannot rewrite the statute to be what it is not,” Scalia says. “We have never heldneverthat a penalty imposed for violation of the law was so trivial as to be in effect a tax. We have never held that any exaction imposed for violation of the law is an exercise of Congress taxing powereven when the statute calls it a tax, much less when (as here) the statute repeatedly calls it a penalty.” <<
It’s important to note that only ONE SINGLE SUPREME COURT JUDGE called Obamacare’s penalties a tax; the other four who decided Obamacare was legal did so with alternate legal reasoning.
This IS it - totally. Anyone following the dots can see this. Again I say please look at getting out of here if you can.
Roberts needs to be impeached.
If he is correct on being a tax, then he needs to be impeached for violating the Constitution. A tax cannot be levied by the Senate.
Either way, Obamacare is unconstitutional. He blew it.
Thanks SeekAndFind.
And I think Roberts knows this now, which is why I think he'll over turn it at any opportunity ..
I don't think he can bring himself to overturn it.
The Obama/Holder blackmail that got him to abandon his principles and oath of office in the first place is still in effect.
Of course it can be challenged*, but you should bring guns.
* The courts are all too eager to throw out the individual's complaints, or any challenge or limit to its power/authority: see president, standing, stare decisis, and all manner of rejecting/reinterpreting the Constitution[s] binding the court.
To debate a theoretical blackmail until there is some evidence is just a waste of time. I suppose it’s possible, but it’s like discussing a theoretical vapor .a waste of time.
Ultimately Technology will make the whole argument moot, however the solution will likely be 10 years after your expiration date, as usual.
- Gave your bank account info to a fed or state healthcare website?
- Washington state is already illegally grabbing huge amounts from checking accounts - in some cases twice :
- http://www.kgw.com/news/Enrollees-report-erroneous-debits-by-WA-Healthplanfinder-235244701.html
Finally someone gets it.
I’m actually tired of having to post this crap over and over and over but seems very few here “get” it.
Obamcare has nothing to do with a tax or whatever it was supposed to be according to Roberts.
It has everything to do with Roberts having the sh_t blackmailed out of him by the regime!!!
Roberts (barren?)wife insisted on adopting blue-eyed blond- haired children from her parents home county of Cork, Ireland.
She found two mothers willing to give up a boy and a girl. Turns out it’s really hard to adopt them directly from Ireland to the US so they had the birth mothers go to Central America where they were adopted by the Roberts and sent to the US.
Evidently this fast and loose game did not go unnoticed by the regime.
When the time was right they most likely asked Roberts to choose between “0” care and his kids. Guess what he picked?
Here’s some documentation that is hard to refute since its from the NYT among others!
Heres’s a clip from the link.
“(Editors Note: Found the below post when reading headlines over at WhatReallyHappened dot com. The headline reads How Roberts was blackmailed to support ObamaCare and it was written by a poster at the Liberty Caucus blog who goes by the user name Trip. This poster has done some digging into Supreme Court Justice John Roberts adoption of two Irish children born months apart by two different mothers, which in and of itself is fairly benign, but there is a problem, the laws governing adoption in Ireland are clearall adoptions go through [a] government board, An Bord Uchtala including what Americans call private adoption. Yet, the Roberts adopted these two children through an unspecified Latin American country. If, and this is a really BIG IF, but if the Roberts adoption of these two children circumvented Irelands laws by having the mothers transported to a Latin American country with friendly adoption laws to give birth, well then the Chief Justice may have very well have broken a few laws and IF, again, this is a really BIG IF, if someone in DC learned of these facts who is to say they may not be using them to blackmail the Chief Justice? We know former Illinois Sen. Ryans sealed divorce records mysteriously became public when he was running against Mr. Obama in 2004. Who is to say a similar tactic wasnt used to convince Roberts to be the swing vote that brought us Obamacare? Its as good a theory as any other. Roberts did switch his vote at the last minute why?) - See more at: http://www.t-room.us/2013/01/unraveling-the-mystery-behind-chief-justice-roberts-sudden-switch-to-rule-in-favor-of-obamacare/#sthash.hU6N1Aqn.dpuf"
I predict this will turn into a 5% tax...right out of your paycheck. It will be called Mediscam.
Thanks for the post; FReepmail
The “supreme” court sanctioned a PRE-MEDITATED LIE, that was supported in lock-step by a party of deceivers.
FUJR
FUUSSC
FUCONgress
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For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
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