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Mark let him have it...
1 posted on 12/11/2013 3:10:01 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Ryan is a WUSSY!


2 posted on 12/11/2013 3:13:00 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Timber Rattler

From what I got from the interview, I like the deal.

No new tax on incomes.
Sequester is not lifted - it is amended for the next 15 months to swap permanent changes in entitlement laws [reductions] for increases over the next 15 months.

It comes out about even if you can stomach waiting 10 years for the full amount of the reductions to take place.

But it does not lift the sequester and it does not raise income taxes.

I really am surprised the Dems went for it. They must be in a panic.

One thing I was very interested in - Ryan claims that the deal “reclaims the power of the purse” to the House by not doing CRs... I’m interested in that b/c that’s been the ploy by dems ... and that’s why they started doing CRs... to take such power from the House. That is one of the main pillars allowing 0bama to take over government.

They just say no and shut down the gov’t and blame Rs and it works. The latest shutdown - clearly 100% on the hands of Reid and 0bama - did hurt the Rs. But it was finessed beautifully by Cruz with 0bamacare.

If we could get back to what we’ve done for over two centuries - individual spending bills - we’d be closer to regaining the power of the purse. I don’t think 0bama would survive repeatedly refusing to fund individual pieces of gov. ESPECIALLY if we win the senate even by the smallest of margins. Hell I bet a 49-51 D control would see enough dems throw 0bama under the bus and make him veto a bill to fund.


5 posted on 12/11/2013 3:39:43 AM PST by Principled (I am tired of a lawless government. I want a government restrained by the Constitution [Irenic])
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To: Timber Rattler

I’m about 12 minutes into the 17 minute interview, and I’d call it a good hard and substantive interview. Ryan made some good points, as did Levin. Should be “must hear” material for everyone.


6 posted on 12/11/2013 4:02:57 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Timber Rattler

Pi$$ on “ryan the rat”... he is a lying, pos, liberal democrat, big government whore. Anyone supporting him is the same.


7 posted on 12/11/2013 4:02:59 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Timber Rattler

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3100575/posts

“The Wall Street Journal - The deal, which goes to the House and Senate for approval in the coming days, marks a major change in the landmark 2011 budget-cutting law, which set in motion 10 years of fiscal austerity, including across-the-board spending cuts known as sequestration.

The annual discretionary spending target will be raised to $1.012 trillion in 2014 and $1.014 trillion in 2015 under the accord.

The deal responds to the fears of most Democrats and some Republicans that government spending would be cut too much and too randomly under the next round of the sequester, which was slated to reduce the budget for most domestic and defense programs to $967 billion in 2014, down from $986 billion in 2013.

The depth of conservative opposition will become apparent as lawmakers absorb the details, which were released to the public Tuesday night. To draw support from the GOP’s fiscal conservatives, the deal includes additional deficit-reduction measures: While the agreement calls for a $63 billion increase in spending in 2014 and 2015, it is coupled with $85 billion in deficit reductions over the next 10 years, for a net deficit reduction of $22.5 billion.

The deal achieves some of those savings by extending an element of the 2011 budget law that was due to expire in 2021. The sequester currently cuts 2% from Medicare payments to health-care providers from 2013 through 2021. The new deal extends those cuts to 2022 and 2023.

This deal is simple, really. They are raising the spending cap that was won by the Republicans in 2011. The sequester, which was President Obama’s baby until he discovered the Republicans were going to stiffen their spines and hold him to his proposal, is going to be eased. All for a supposed reduction of the deficit of $22.5 billion over ten years. I would point out that the deficit for fiscal year 2013 is hovering around the $700 billion mark. I would contend cutting $22.5 billion over ten years is setting the mark a bit low.

Here is what is really happening, once again. The Democrats are achieving their never-ending goal of raising spending levels. Republicans are agreeing to that increase, in exchange for supposed spending cuts sometime in the future. I would suggest they hire someone to hold a séance so they can ask President Ronald Reagan about a similar deal he worked out with the Democrats. That didn’t work out so well for Reagan. If he could talk to us now, I’m fairly sure he would be raising his voice in protest to this compromise. He would be telling us we shouldn’t trust the Democrats to come through with their end of the compromise. Looking at the history of previous compromise budget deals with the Democrats, I’m going to say he would be correct.”


9 posted on 12/11/2013 4:07:31 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Shutting down the government at this time won’t help our chances in 2014. Keep the pressure on with Obamacare, Bam and the rest of the RATS are tumbling in the polls let’s not help them out.


13 posted on 12/11/2013 4:46:41 AM PST by kenmcg
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It lets the RATS off the hook for increasing the DEBT to $17 trillion. Now they can say: WE REACHED AN HISTORIC BIPATISAN AGREEMENT ON THE BUDGET.

The GOP gave away one of its main campaign issues.


16 posted on 12/11/2013 4:53:46 AM PST by SC_Pete
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Oh the huge manatee!

That is the type of groupthink we see too much of from those in Washington.

52 posted on 12/11/2013 6:26:54 AM PST by TomGuy (.)
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