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Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook call for NSA muzzle - the privacy rights of the public.
zdnet. ^ | 12-9 | By Charlie Osborne

Posted on 12/09/2013 8:19:22 AM PST by dennisw

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To: Nervous Tick
I’m so paranoid, I don’t even THINK anymore.

You'll be a perfect little Democrat serf........................

21 posted on 12/09/2013 9:04:01 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Nervous Tick
I’m so paranoid, I don’t even THINK anymore.

Hate to break it to you, but that makes you a liberal/democrap.

22 posted on 12/09/2013 9:05:14 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: dennisw

How about AT&T and Verizon?


23 posted on 12/09/2013 9:06:51 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: dennisw

We heard of this union long before Snowden. These companies didn’t do anything 3 years or so ago and they’ll not do anything in the future. It’s nothing but a feel good piece.


24 posted on 12/09/2013 9:09:11 AM PST by bgill
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To: Sicon; Red Badger; KarlInOhio

ENOUGH ALREADY!

I’ll turn it back on! Sheesh...

...hope this tinfoil hat works as well at they say it does on the interwebz...


25 posted on 12/09/2013 9:10:08 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick

26 posted on 12/09/2013 9:17:39 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: dennisw
IF there were warrants issued from the NSA then there's a paper trail. Those Warrants
should be released for public viewing and the Judges also held accountable
for violating Constitutional rights.
27 posted on 12/09/2013 9:32:17 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: dennisw
Only one problem: the wrong companies are making this request.

Here's the issue: many suspect that the NSA has been directly tapping into the Internet backbone lines owned by AT&T, Level 3, Sprint and Verizon. If these companies I mentioned aren't speaking up to curb the NSA's activities, that original "open letter" is all for naught.

28 posted on 12/09/2013 9:48:10 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RayChuang88

You got that right!!! Thanks for that info. I know I read the NSA has a few switches installed at certain key places. These switches divert (I guess mirror) the flow over an internet backbone. I remember ATT and Verizon being mentioned where these switches were installed.

This mirrored flow gets sent to NSA in Maryland and Utah. Seems that Ft Meade does the analysis while Utah NSA is mostly for storage. Archived for immediate retrieval if necessary


29 posted on 12/09/2013 10:04:37 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
I think I have to disagree with everyone replying here (so far) in that it is a right start, at least.

Yes, many of these companies collect user data. But you can simply refuse to be one of their users. It's private enterprise and business, as long as they inform you, have the right to contractually keep your data.

It is a good start because it brings to light that there has been way too much of this type of data collecting going on, both from the government and the businesses.

The businesses now know that this is an important issue and I think they will be forced, by customer complaints or market forces in which other competing companies promise not to collect data, into not collecting such data.

Now as far as the government goes, I absolutely think the whole law is a violation of the US Constitution—the government does not nor should not have the power to collect this type of data on Americans.

Did you know that part of the surveillance laws was that the tech Company COULD NOT tell their customers that the government was forcing them to pass on private user data?

In any case, the financial, legal and moral push-back against personal data collection needs to be waged, and this is a rightward step in that direction. Far more needs to be done, no more sweeping under the rug, etc., etc.

30 posted on 12/09/2013 10:26:41 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Joe Wilson was dead on! Expunge his censor or censor Pelosi!)
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To: null and void

I hope their influence will get this monstrosity chopped up and discarded


31 posted on 12/09/2013 11:08:37 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Gaffer
Word is, the Snowden document dumps have directly impacted the bottom line of these and other companies (Cisco is going to continue take a beating).

This is why those howling that Snowden is a 'traitor' are so wide of the mark IMO. I really don't give a damn what motivated him. The bottom line is that what he's done has highlighted the intrusiveness of our feral government, and has prompted people to finally start pushing back against it. None of these companies give a damn about our privacy, and most have, in the past worked directly to undermine it. However, their customers now know about it and many aren't exactly happy. THe only way to get anything to change at a national level is to have some of these high profile companies to start pushing back, as they are doing (at least publicly). The government doesn't listen to the people, but it does listen to big money.

32 posted on 12/09/2013 11:11:56 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: dennisw

I remember seeing Zuckerfuk on live TV denying any cooperation with the NSA then a week later we find that Facebook was in total cahoots with the NSA all along.
F Zuck and all these other traitors.


33 posted on 12/10/2013 12:38:05 AM PST by mowowie
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To: dennisw

Somehow I tend to believe that the NSA’s actions is in some way costing these conglomerates MONEY or they would not be taking this stance.


34 posted on 12/10/2013 1:01:16 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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Somehow I tend to believe that the NSA’s actions is in some way costing these conglomerates MONEY or they would not be taking this stance.

Absolutely. Early reports indicate that this fiasco is costing the US tech sector tens of billions of dollars (here's one estimate saying $35 billion over the next three years, and that's far from the most pessimistic figures I've seen.

35 posted on 12/11/2013 6:54:47 AM PST by kobald
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36 posted on 12/11/2013 7:07:21 AM PST by KeyLargo
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