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To: Boogieman

The wholesale data mining and spying and the capabilities of the US government was well known long before Snowden provided information on details to our enemies.

This has been known for years before Snowden.

He just sold details to China and Russia and by consequence Islamic terrorists to make it easier for them to avoid surveillance.


47 posted on 12/03/2013 9:39:25 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

“The wholesale data mining and spying and the capabilities of the US government was well known long before Snowden provided information on details to our enemies.

This has been known for years before Snowden.”

Au contraire. It was suspected by those “in the know” about intelligence matters or the technical feasibility of such programs, but it was absolutely not public knowledge nor a verifiable fact. Now it is.

“He just sold details to China and Russia and by consequence Islamic terrorists to make it easier for them to avoid surveillance.”

You have some evidence to back up that claim, I suppose?


51 posted on 12/03/2013 10:40:45 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: ifinnegan
The wholesale data mining and spying and the capabilities of the US government was well known long before Snowden provided information on details to our enemies.
This has been known for years before Snowden.

Your problem is that you don't distinguish between suspicion and proof. People suspected the NSA's criminal and abusive conduct for years, but couldn't definitively make the case until now.

100 posted on 12/05/2013 8:44:44 AM PST by kobald
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