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Provision in Obamacare Likely to Force Up Cost of Many Family Plans
Townhall.com ^ | December 1, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 12/01/2013 8:45:17 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: nascarnation

And the heirs can inherit her stuff before it is all gone! Like money, stocks, bonds, houses, cars, jewelry!


21 posted on 12/01/2013 11:11:25 AM PST by buffyt (Abortion is murder. It is not a choice, it is a CHILD of GOD.)
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To: gleeaikin

Buy your own damned birth control. And stop forcing me to pay for other peoples kids.


22 posted on 12/01/2013 11:13:12 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: gleeaikin

Birth control is personal responsibility. I’m not paying for someone else’s condoms or birth control pills. But I do find great humor that the gay crowd has to pay for it also.
The whole obamacare scam must be repealed.
The fraud must be removed from the White House.
Glee Aikin? Really?


23 posted on 12/01/2013 11:44:24 AM PST by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: spokeshave

Now serving grape Flavoraid at a nursing home near you.


24 posted on 12/01/2013 11:47:18 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: spokeshave; Travis McGee; All

Scaled to a population of over 300,000,000, then 750,000 or 7.5 to 3,000 annually sounds like a normal or low death rate, not euthanazia.

I cared for my 89 year old mother when she was dying of congestive heart failure as the pig valve she received 10 years earlier began to fail. She was too frail for another surgery. I also cared for my husband who died of Alzheimers. The last 3 years were 24/7/365. Neither wanted to die in a hospital hooked up to IV and stomach tubes and they signed advanced directives years earlier when they were lucid. My mother knew she was dying and suffered from anxiety. My cousin, a doctor who knew and cared about my mother, suggested a mild tranquilizer which was a big help. When my husband finally collapsed and could not walk any more, the doctors who had seen him 3 months earlier sent me home hospice care (a nurse visited daily to check on him and give me advice). After a few days he did not want to eat. My son and I talked with the doctors. They said, feed him if he wants food, give water if he wants it. He did not, he died 5 days later at home in our bed. There is a time when dying is normal, we must learn to accept that and help the way the loved one wants us to. The Red Cross and others should offer classes on home care of the dying. Many want to die at home, but family do not feel able to do this—fear and ignorance.

I decided to check out the Liverpool Care Pathway. There are many links. Here is one about comparative testing, and an important comment.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2461376/Liverpool-Care-Pathway-little-benefit-study-finds.html

Actually, dying people don’t feel thirst. The dying person follows their body cues just like a living one does. Their body is shutting down and doesn’t want food or fluid. Trying to force that into their body is cruel and causes them to become ill and vomit, and that usually ends up in their lungs. Fluids cause overload and create pain and breathing difficulties. There seems to be a lack of knowledge about the dying process. It is part of the life cycle. When your body is done so are you. We can keep you free of pain and other symptoms if you have them. But we can’t change the course you are on. The ethical solution is to maintain comfort only.


25 posted on 12/01/2013 11:49:40 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Kaslin

I never thought I’d see the day when the VA is the best deal going on health “insurance”.


26 posted on 12/01/2013 11:53:01 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: gleeaikin
Birth control is not a great idea? So you like paying for more poor kids welfare, emergency room visits, etc?

You like paying for STDs?

27 posted on 12/01/2013 2:08:16 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: gleeaikin

If you’re too fucking stupid to understand the difference between Viagra and birth control, you’re probably a female.


28 posted on 12/01/2013 2:10:33 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: gleeaikin
Your examples are actual dying people. The problem with government-run care is that it inevitably results in denial of needed but expensive treatments in favor of cheap generic medications that are not always the best choice. For example the rate of artery surgery to prevent stroke is 10 times greater here in the US than in Britain, they get aspirin instead. Other operations that are nonessential are delayed for years (e.g. hernia).

The bottom line is that there are debilitation and preventable deaths in many instances over there with very little to balance it on the positive side (e.g. lower overall cost).

29 posted on 12/01/2013 2:21:34 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
If you’re too fucking stupid to understand the difference between Viagra and birth control, you’re probably a female.

As per post 25, she is indeed a woman - a thourghly mixed up one at that.

30 posted on 12/01/2013 2:50:19 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58; Trailerpark Badass; All

And how many people who knew they were dying have begged YOU to care for them at home so they don’t end up dying in a hospital.


31 posted on 12/03/2013 12:44:54 AM PST by gleeaikin
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