Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How winter kills more people in Britain ‘than in -30C Sweden’
metro.co.uk ^ | 22 Nov 2013 | metro

Posted on 11/26/2013 1:54:02 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

The cold claims more lives in Britain than in Sweden, where temperatures regularly plunge as low as -30C (-22F) in winter, campaigners say.

There were 25,535 ‘excess winter deaths’ – people who died as a direct result of the cold – in Britain in 2011-12, compared with 3,385 in Sweden, it was claimed.

Taking into account Britain’s higher population, EWDs accounted for 4.61 per cent of all fatalities in this country, compared with 3.76 per cent in Sweden, according to fuel poverty campaign group the Energy Bill Revolution.

Britain was labelled the ‘cold man of Europe’ by the group, which blamed its findings on ‘appallingly’ insulated homes.

(Excerpt) Read more at metro.co.uk ...


TOPICS: United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: sweden; uk
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-23 next last

1 posted on 11/26/2013 1:54:02 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

“There were 25,535 ‘excess winter deaths’ – people who died as a direct result of the cold – in Britain in 2011-12, compared with 3,385 in Sweden, it was claimed.”

Why, it’s simple, there needs to be laws!


2 posted on 11/26/2013 2:49:42 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
Slippery when wet.


3 posted on 11/26/2013 3:13:23 AM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

More global warming, I suppose? Sweden is more prosperous than Britain. People die of cold weather because they cannot afford to heat their homes, often because the homes are inadequately insulated.

Poverty has and always will kill more people than pollution, nuclear power and dozens of other bogeymen of the left.


4 posted on 11/26/2013 3:21:38 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Having been in both nations...I can safely say Sweden has fewer cold deaths because they are in better shape...fewer fatties. Swedes also participate in winter sports.


5 posted on 11/26/2013 3:38:44 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (2014: Real Conservatives Only, Please)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Or perhaps a lot of RECENT Britons just aren’t adapted for the cold. Being used to desert sands and all.


6 posted on 11/26/2013 3:57:46 AM PST by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper
long-range forecasters warn winter 2013 into January 2014 could deliver the most severe weather for more than 60 years.
Heavy snow is set to cripple parts of the UK while temperatures threaten to hover below-average for until the beginning of spring. The latest detailed forecasts for winter 2013 all point towards months of relentless extreme cold with heavy snow ‘extremely likely’ across the country.Experts in long-range weather forecasting said the whole of Britain should be prepared for this winter to be the most severe since 1947, which saw the UK hit by relentless snow and some of the lowest temperatures on record.
7 posted on 11/26/2013 4:02:28 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeminoleCounty

If you look into the report and others like it you’ll see the Brits have rather cold living quarters in the winter and many of the deaths are the elderly.

I blame eco-nazis and the removal of cheap coal from the Britishh energy market. Coal is plentiful and people had been heating their homes with it for hundreds of years. In the last 30 years it’s been replaced with more expensive electricity and many people haven’t had the finances to retrofit their homes with insulation to compensate against the more expensive heating costs. The result is they are now cold and sick in the winter, with many elderly dying.


8 posted on 11/26/2013 4:23:33 AM PST by Justa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: SeminoleCounty
If you get drunk, old snowmachine breaks down on way home from the liquor store 20 miles outside the dry town, it's minus 50F, and you sit down and continue to drink in a snow bank, wind picks up, whiteout begins; you are going to die. It happens to the Indians all the time. You read about Indians dying from exposure & freezing solid every winter, somewhat common actually. I've helped bury Indian friends that have died from alcohol/winter related problems a few times over the years.

Now we always get 3 weeks of minus 60F weather every January, talk about feeling like Sam McGee? Most Whites are more prudent to extreme conditions, they have seen it before. Some Indians 50 years removed from the stoneage and introduced to the negative effects of alcohol; don't do so well.

I bet the comparison is the same with Swedes (who are accustomed to more extreme temps) and the Brits (who sure enjoy their alcohol and are not as accustomed to extremely cold temps. NO joke, I bet that has something to do with it.

9 posted on 11/26/2013 4:24:34 AM PST by Eska
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Eska

The Brits do like their drink, but it’s more the stiff upper lip than the stiff shot of whiskey that does them in.

Few are very long distances from civilization, but their housing stock is very uneven and the elderly were raised in a time of rationing, deprivation and pride unlike the current culture.


10 posted on 11/26/2013 4:47:07 AM PST by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SeminoleCounty

Huh? One would think fat would provide insulation.


11 posted on 11/26/2013 4:47:41 AM PST by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Salgak

I do believe that population gets too much government support for such a fate.


12 posted on 11/26/2013 4:48:22 AM PST by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Justa

Yes, electric heat is brutally expensive and often not even centralized over there.


13 posted on 11/26/2013 4:49:22 AM PST by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

Don’t worry about global warming-global cooling will kill you first.


14 posted on 11/26/2013 4:49:49 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 9YearLurker

That doesn’t stop buildings from being poorly insulated, or people not KNOWING how to deal with the cold.

Heck, I’m still learning tricks. . . like putting bubble-wrap on inside panes is MUCH more effective than shrink-wrapping windows for the winter. . .


15 posted on 11/26/2013 4:58:12 AM PST by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Eska

You posted of Indians....... I onder how many were paki’s.

It isn’t very cold in Islamabad


16 posted on 11/26/2013 5:05:40 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Lonesome in Massachussets
People die of cold weather because they cannot afford to heat their homes

Possibly, but Brits have always kept their homes much cooler in winter than Americans. You lounge around the house in two sweaters instead of a T-shirt. This is not necessarily harmful to the health.

17 posted on 11/26/2013 5:30:30 AM PST by Sherman Logan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Berlin_Freeper

While energy prices play a part in this, by far the most important factor in the contrast with Scandinavia is the quantity and quality of insulation. There is still an great deal of older housing stock in Britain built when energy was cheap and insulation virtually non-existent. Although insulation standards for new housing are now much higher, and older houses can be and are improved by retrofitting insulation, there is still a wide gap between this and the norm in Norway etc, where triple-glazing and a foot of cavity insulation are common. I’m a frequent winter visitor to Norway, and however many times I go I’m always astonished by the contrast.


18 posted on 11/26/2013 6:24:47 AM PST by Winniesboy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Salgak

Looking out your windows and all you see is Bigfoot-always blurry.


19 posted on 11/26/2013 8:59:20 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Sherman Logan

..up to a point. Actually, a somewhat cool home is probably healthier than one heated to 78 F in winter. But when ice forms on the inside of windows, it is unhealthfully cold.


20 posted on 11/26/2013 9:02:18 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-23 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson