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China Imposes No-Fly Zone Over Japanese Islands
Investor's Business Daily ^ | November 25, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 11/25/2013 5:03:46 PM PST by raptor22

Maritime Grab: Iran isn't the only nuclear threat to worry about. As its military and economy have grown, so too have China's dreams of dominating an island chain centered on Taiwan and including Japan's Senkakus.

China's increased belligerence in the region is part of its plan to control the Yellow Sea, the South China Sea and the larger East China Sea. Its military doctrine refers to dominance over the "first island chain," which encompasses the East China Sea.

The next step is dominance over what Beijing calls the second island chain extending from Japan to Indonesia. Some analysts have even speculated about plans for a third island chain strategy extending as far as Hawaii.

As part of its plans, China on Saturday announced an air defense identification zone (ADIZ) in the East China Sea effective Nov. 23. Its military will take "defensive emergency measures" if aircraft enter the area without reporting flight plans or identifying themselves.

China's defense ministry warned in a statement that all aircraft that fail to comply with its new rules for transit through the zone could be shot down.

Media reports say that the ministry issued a map showing the new East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone, including what the Chinese call the Diaoyu Islands. The map of the new defense zone, pulled off a Chinese website, shows that it overlaps Japan's defense zone over the Senkakus, a group of uninhabited islands located south of Okinawa and north of Taiwan that sit atop significant oil deposits.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Japan
KEYWORDS: china; disputedislands; ibd; japan; senkaku; senkakuislands; spratlyislands

1 posted on 11/25/2013 5:03:46 PM PST by raptor22
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To: raptor22

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2 posted on 11/25/2013 5:07:45 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Take out the trash)
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To: raptor22

Confucius say man who tell birds not to fly sleep on feather bed.


3 posted on 11/25/2013 5:08:32 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: raptor22

It is not a “No Fly” Zone. It is a Air Defense Identification Zone. Any non-Chinese aircraft will have to identify itself, or Chinese aircraft will fly up to take a look.

In a “No Fly” Zone any aircraft will be shot down if it intrudes.

In this zone if they do not ID themselves, they will be checked out.

The Japanese do exactly the same thing over these islands. The Chinese also claim the islands in question and have now decided to do the same...which is new...and which can lead to accidents, tensions, problems and potential conflict.

But it is not a “No Fly,” zone. If it were, the Chinese and Japanese would be in an aerial war almost immediately.


4 posted on 11/25/2013 5:09:57 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: raptor22

bttt


5 posted on 11/25/2013 5:15:05 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: raptor22
Here's the part that's interesting:

It was only after a 1968 United Nations survey reported the huge oil and gas potential of the area that Beijing began to protest the 1972 U.S. return of the islets to Japanese control as part of Okinawa. The U.S. is obligated to defend the islands under the 1960 U.S.-Japan Security Treaty, which covers all territories under Japanese administration, including the Senkakus.

6 posted on 11/25/2013 5:16:41 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: raptor22

The Chinese must have a case of severe memory loss if they cannot vividly recall what the Japanese did to them in the 30’s and 40’s. Perhaps PO’ing the Japanese is another Chinese plan for their population control.


7 posted on 11/25/2013 5:18:10 PM PST by Temujinshordes
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To: Jeff Head

I have long said that if the Japaneese want to maintain control over these islands, they need to put a coast guard base with helios and resupply dock at the location. Along with maritime radar and communications.

You know, to support international shipping [wink wink]


8 posted on 11/25/2013 5:22:29 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: raptor22

Some analysts have even speculated about plans for a third island chain strategy extending as far as Hawaii.

bring it on chinks , we like make chop suey you


9 posted on 11/25/2013 5:23:48 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, the article states:

“China’s defense ministry warned in a statement that all aircraft that fail to comply with its new rules for transit through the zone could be shot down.”

How is this not a no-fly zone? Not being mouthy here. Those words to me, make it logical to conclude that it is indeed a no fly zone.


10 posted on 11/25/2013 5:35:56 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: raptor22

No fly zone - no problem. That’s how America does it too.


11 posted on 11/25/2013 5:36:22 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: TEXOKIE

I do not believe that is an accurate translation.

I follow the Chinese Navy and the PRC releases regarding it closely. This is the first time I have seen such a statement.

Everywhere it has been reported, particularly over there, has indicated that the Zone they established is an Air Defense Identification Zone. Those words have very specific meaning and they do not mean “No Fly,” Zone.

The Japanese regularly fly over those islands.


12 posted on 11/25/2013 6:30:48 PM PST by Jeff Head
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so what where they calling the zone where the Chinese jet had that collision with a US plane back during the Bush years?


13 posted on 11/25/2013 7:54:20 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: JSteff

That collision occurred very near their undisputed Hainan Island, very close to the 12 mile national limit.

Their fighter came up and challenged our aircraft which was off the 12 mile limit. It attempted, without firing any weapons, to intimidate our aircraft into landing on the Chinese island. Their pilot miscalculated and collided...and died in the process.

Our damaged aircraft then landed on the island, just off the Chinese coast. It is a major Chinese installation and there is no doubt our ELINT aircraft was gathering electronics and intelligence data.

It was reminiscent of the cold war days between ourselves and the Soviets.

I do not believe the aircraft should have landed...IMHO, with as much sophisticated and very sensitive equipment as it contained, the pilot should have pointed the aircraft further out to sea and landed on its belly in the water and waited for US rescue. But the commander on the scene, who clearly knew the overall conditions better than I, elected to land on the island.

This is not the same...but could lead to the same kind of results.


14 posted on 11/25/2013 9:31:42 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Still Thinking; StopGlobalWhining; Straight Vermonter; Tampa Caver; TChris; ...

This is an Investor’s Business Daily EDITORIAL Ping from the IBD EDITORIAL page even if the Admin Moderator doesn’t think so.


15 posted on 11/26/2013 5:27:57 AM PST by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: Jeff Head

WOW! Thanks for the insight. But isn’t it [the Air Defense Identification Zone] still a territory grab of sorts?

btw....Happy Thanksgiving time!


16 posted on 11/27/2013 8:24:51 AM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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