Posted on 11/16/2013 1:02:40 PM PST by jazusamo
Edited on 11/16/2013 2:48:26 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Pardon me, but you've got to have proof of your assertion.
And, in order to establish such proof, you've got to gain access to the DOJ e-mails, notes and phone logs which are the subject of the Contempt action.
Capiche?
How true...
We have enough proof. We don’t need his testimony for that.
This is nothing but the eGOP stonewalling us for justice. They don’t WANT to take any action.
We have the guns, the serial numbers, testimony from gun brokers, video, audio, witness testimony, dead US federal agents, dead Americans, dead Mexicans, dead Mexican federal agents, INS/BP confiscations of the firearms, etc.
We’ve got more evidence right now than we’ve had against anyone on death row.
“What kind of impeachment would it be if the documents are still under court seal and you couldn’t use them in a proceeding? “
Read my #44. That, and imagine an impeachment whereby Zero even admits there are document he refuses to release. Nothing says guilt to the masses than that.
I wonder if anyone is going to request that he have his law license revoked for ethics violations? The contempt citation is sufficient grounds for a complaint to the Bar Association.
I was going to ask that very same thing but I know the answer. The eGOP will cower in fear to even suggest such a thing.
Thank you for posting that FACT. The good Lord gave us two eyes and ears and one tongue for a reason. Two others while I’m on the soap box. It is not a penalty, it’s a TAX! They are not pro choice, they are abortionist!
I believe that anyone can complain to the Bar association where Holder is admitted (I’d guess DC). Maybe some savvy organization like Landmark Legal Foundation could do a particularly effective job, but there should be lots of people able to initiate action. I remember fondly when Bill Clinton was disbarred. It is only just that wrongdoers be held to account.
Zero has already refused to release documents (the EO). And the masses yawn.
Better to wait till the judge rules. If she rules against Obama/Holder then the masses will pay more attention.
Congress -- each chamber, in fact -- has a process whereby they can jail those who are in contempt *without* getting the judiciary involved. if Boehner and the House had any balls, they would use it.
Inherent contempt
Under this process, the procedure for holding a person in contempt involves only the chamber concerned. Following a contempt citation, the person cited is arrested by the Sergeant-at-Arms for the House or Senate, brought to the floor of the chamber, held to answer charges by the presiding officer, and then subjected to punishment as the chamber may dictate (usually imprisonment for punishment reasons, imprisonment for coercive effect, or release from the contempt citation).
What proof do you have, though, that Holder (and Obama) had anything to do with authorizing/conducting the program and any associated criminal activity?
Zero.
So, you don't have enough evidence to prosecute Holder for anything except Contempt.
“What proof do you have, though, that Holder (and Obama) had anything to do with authorizing/conducting the program and any associated criminal activity?
Zero. “
Actually, there are witnesses, letters, emails, and other evidence that got out. It is the reason Holder is in the hot seat.
In the hot seat, yes.
But insufficient for conviction. Lot of he said, I said.
If you want to nail his sorry butt, you've got to get the internal communications from the DOJ on Fast & Furious.
Moreover, isn't it interesting that Obama is claiming Executive Privilege on his communications when both Holder and Obama claim that Obama knew nothing about the affair.
It's a very strong indication that there is something very incriminating being withheld.
The judges only response:
no jurisdiction!
Or yet another part of USG has gone outlaw.
I disagree with others above saying there in not enough evidence?
Impeachment is not a criminal court; it is a way for the Congress to have a incompetent, lying person removed from office.
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