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Switzerland Plans to Give Out "Free" Money - Claims It's a Libertarian Idea
Townhall.com ^ | November 14, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 11/14/2013 8:38:56 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: alexander_busek

So. You are pro-dope and you support increased taxes.

How very liberal of you.


21 posted on 11/14/2013 11:15:46 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Kaslin

I think every country in the world should turn to “German-born artists” for advice on national economic policies.


22 posted on 11/14/2013 11:19:48 AM PST by WayneS (No problem is so great that it cannot be made worse by a "progressive" solution.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Oooh, I’ve been insulted. From some goober who plays with his guns in public.

Oh, wait. I’m wrong. You’re too chicken to even do that.


23 posted on 11/14/2013 11:20:51 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You start with insults and expected something else in return?

Just like a typical Dem troll...


24 posted on 11/14/2013 11:23:09 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Kaslin

Nobody will have to work again.

But then where will they get the money to give away?


25 posted on 11/14/2013 11:25:15 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Dead Corpse

Hey, if you don’t like my insults, then quit stalking me from thread to thread.


26 posted on 11/14/2013 11:26:41 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Kaslin

The only “case from the right” is to eliminate all welfare programs (ALL of them) and replace it with a monthly cash benefit, meanwhile firing 90% of the bureaucrats and “workers” in the welfare system.

It would still have to be means-tested to make sure it is only going to the really poor.


27 posted on 11/14/2013 11:27:56 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

You wish, cupcake...


28 posted on 11/14/2013 11:29:28 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Carry_Okie

The negative income tax is still a stupid idea though. Might be a good intellectual exercise but that is all.


29 posted on 11/14/2013 11:33:13 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: The_Reader_David
However, there is a libertarian argument that *if* a society decides that it will redistribute income to ensure that all citizens have some minimum level, the only way to do this which will not create perverse incentives is to give everyone the minimum income, rather than means testing it

Which for all intents and purposes is the same thing the article is talking about. A stupid idea is still stupid.

30 posted on 11/14/2013 11:35:33 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Agreed.

Why not just end all “welfare” programs and let the charities handle it? With more disposable income and a burgeoning marketplace free of idiotic taxation policies, it would require real effort to stay “poor” and in need of help.


31 posted on 11/14/2013 11:36:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I wouldn’t disagree with that. We should also make sure that Operas, orchestras and museums are not “charity” for the charitable tax credit (if not eliminate it outright)


32 posted on 11/14/2013 11:38:51 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Agreed. I have a deep love for orchestral music having played the Viola since about age 8.

But... The only “funding” from the public for the “Arts” should come from ticket sales and those wishing to set up “Foundations” to support them.

Then again, same for sports teams. My State is currently screwing the public, me included, to the tune of around $500 million for a losing football team’s new stadium.


33 posted on 11/14/2013 11:43:48 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Billionaire owners and millionaire owners really need your money! lol

But it’s all good there will people selling beer and popcorn for at least 10 days a year at close to minimum wage, doesn’t that make up for the half a billion??

lol

The justifications never cease to make me laugh

If a new stadium made economic sense, they wouldn’t need taxpayers to pay for it. If that were the case these large cities should announce a Sports District that covers the stadiums and little else that would fund them.


34 posted on 11/14/2013 11:47:22 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Dead Corpse

Nothing makes a politician more excited about spending your money than the computer simulated view of the field from his new luxury box seats....


35 posted on 11/14/2013 11:48:22 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: GeronL

millionaire players

d’oh


36 posted on 11/14/2013 11:59:15 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

What’s the lost opportunity cost on half a billion dollars sucked out of the private economy?

Laugh? Makes me wanna reach for my tar bucket and my Wife’s old feather pillows...


37 posted on 11/14/2013 12:02:11 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: nascarnation

With Lambeu field’s last couple of expansions... 100% paid for by the Packers.

As it should be.

I’ve spent decades not liking the Packers. Not gonna change my mind now just because their ownership is doing what they should have been doing all along...

As for my home team Vikings... Really makes me wish I was back in Texas.


38 posted on 11/14/2013 12:04:26 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Kaslin

I guess Tina Turner was onto something.


39 posted on 11/14/2013 12:06:28 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: Dead Corpse

This is totally not germane but for some reason it brought back the memory.

I once dreamed of developing/inventing a new power source that would make every home independent of the grid and every car independent of oil. (CPG- Chemical Power Generator)

The result in the dream even surprised me. The oil, gas, battery and electrical industries tried to sue. Associated companies even made older cars run on the water-heater sized power units.

Instead of trying to sell the stuff abroad and get robbed by state owned companies counterfeiting it. I decided to sell the rights to manufacture and sell the technology for 100 years. This was worth many billions in countries like Russia, China, India and others.

In the dream the unit cost $1,900 plus annual “recharge fee” of about $200. As you can see the cost of energy would have been drastically reduced.

The annual recharge fees would mean a massive amount of revenue too. I knew I probably had 5-10 years before the US government took the patent and stuff away or seized it all.

It was a great dream, being the first trillionaire.

I bought about 600 square miles of southern Costa Rica as sovereign territory and started my own country. In exchange I gave them $100 billion, enough to pay off their national debt and eliminate most of their taxes and fund most government from the interest.


40 posted on 11/14/2013 12:13:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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