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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is my impression that the act can not just be called off, and everyone back to normal. Many have had there insurance canceled and can not get it back. Am I missing something?


5 posted on 11/13/2013 1:32:20 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

I believe the cancellations do not take effect until 1/1/14, so it the bill can be stopped from being implemented now, there is time to reset.


8 posted on 11/13/2013 1:51:40 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: AlexW

The reason the insurance plans have been cancelled is because of Obamacare. Get rid of Obamacare and you get rid of the reason for canceling the plans. I think the plans can be restored when we flush the Obamacare turd.


9 posted on 11/13/2013 1:53:49 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: AlexW; PGalt; abb
It is my impression that the act can not just be called off, and everyone back to normal. Many have had there insurance canceled and can not get it back. Am I missing something?
That is the consensus among conservatives. But. IMHO that sells us short. There has to be a way - expensively, no doubt - to reconstruct the risk pools which were atomized when the companies were forced to give up their customers by canceling all those policies.

Something along the lines of requiring all insurance companies to either reinstate all the policies or to put the risk pool up for auction, so that any ins. co. could bid for the risk pool en bloc. And somehow compensating companies for the loss of policyholders who have joined other risk pools in the interim, and would be at least temporarily snatched away from them..

You know, something only slightly unconstitutional. At least, as compared with seizing GM, giving it to the UAW, and closing all the dealerships owned by Republicans . . .
Is anyone ready for a Parliamentary system in which a vote of “No confidence” can overturn the administration and require a new snap election yet? I’m not sure I am either, but the system we have now for impeaching a scoundrel is clearly broken. Of course, the central problem in the American polity is the assumption that half the electorate, at least, is systematically able morally and intellectually to avoid electing a demagogue in the first place. When the public is in fact being led by the demagoguery machine known as the Associated Press and its membership.
The natural disposition is always to believe. It is acquired wisdom and experience only that teach incredulity, and they very seldom teach it enough. The wisest and most cautious of us all frequently gives credit to stories which he himself is afterwards both ashamed and astonished that he could possibly think of believing.

The man whom we believe is necessarily, in the things concerning which we believe him, our leader and director, and we look up to him with a certain degree of esteem and respect. -  Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments

And as is only too manifest by the routine cries of conservative outrage over “bias in the media,” the AP is a cabal of demagogues who systematically practice on the credulity of the gullible - that is, on the credulity of all of us, only too much of the time.
But as from admiring other people we come to wish to be admired ourselves; so from being led and directed by other people we learn to wish to become ourselves leaders and directors.
. . . which explains the behavior of the press when its membership becomes united and self-confirming. And that is the only possible result of the Associated Press and any other wire service, which is nothing if not an ongoing and continual virtual meeting of its membership:  
People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices. It is impossible indeed to prevent such meetings, by any law which either could be executed, or would be consistent with liberty and justice. But though the law cannot hinder people of the same trade from sometimes assembling together, it ought to do nothing to facilitate such assemblies; much less to render them necessary. - Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations (Book I, Ch 10)

17 posted on 11/13/2013 3:59:42 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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