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Who counts as an Obamacare enrollee? The Obama administration settles on a definition. [fraud]
Washington Post ^ | November 11, 2013 | Sarah Kliff

Posted on 11/11/2013 7:46:11 PM PST by grundle

The fight over how to define the new health law’s success is coming down to one question: Who counts as an Obamacare enrollee?

Health insurance plans only count subscribers as enrolled in a health plan once they’ve submited a payment. That is when the carrier sends out a member card and begins paying doctor bills.

When the Obama administration releases health law enrollment figures later this week, though, it will use a more expansive definition. It will count people who have purchased a plan as well as those who have a plan sitting in their online shopping cart but have not yet paid.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: obamacare; obamadontcare
This is fraudulent accounting. No other online store counts something as a sale if it's only in your shopping cart and you haven't paid for it.
1 posted on 11/11/2013 7:46:11 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle
For Democrats it the same method they use to count votes on election night.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 7:48:02 PM PST by darkwing104 (Do not take my word for it, these are my opinions...Do your own Homework)
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To: grundle

I would guess that anyone who walked through a room where someone was trying to get onto the busted Obamacare website would count as an enrollee, eh?


3 posted on 11/11/2013 7:52:15 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: grundle

Will the IRS count a plan in the shopping cart so you don’t have to pay the tax penalty?


4 posted on 11/11/2013 8:03:39 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: grundle
No other online store counts something as a sale if it's only in your shopping cart and you haven't paid for it.

Haven't some CEO's gone to jail for less?

5 posted on 11/11/2013 8:04:06 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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To: grundle

Obama is competing with Satan as the best liar.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 8:13:30 PM PST by RginTN
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To: bigbob

That’s where the hand picked ACORN navigators come in - they take someone who might not qualify for a freebie and tell that person how to lie.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 8:14:36 PM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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To: bigbob

CAUGHT ON TAPE: Obamacare Navigators Counsel Applicants to “Lie”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3090245/posts


8 posted on 11/11/2013 8:15:52 PM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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To: grundle

Whatever the definition, the reality is that if the insurance companies don’t get the needed healthy payers, premiums will be raised and they will enter a death spiral. You can only spin the facts so far. Lying about the number of paying customers won’t change reality.


9 posted on 11/11/2013 8:23:21 PM PST by kabar
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To: grundle

All about propaganda.


10 posted on 11/11/2013 8:34:27 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: kabar

Exactly. I think they’re hoping to keep up the lie past the 2014 elections. this is all about power.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 8:41:18 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: grundle

Putting in my bet early. They’re gonna say they have about a million “pending” enrollees, a million new “formerly uninsured” Medicaid recipients, and that the 4.9M who lost their coverage will be able to get coverage at a great price as soon as “we get that website up in two weeks”.

Overall, they met their goal ahead of schedule.


12 posted on 11/11/2013 8:41:46 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: grundle

Oh my goodness, “...when first we practice to deceive....”. The Obama administration’s and the Democrats’ lies keep spreading and they’re beginning to trip over their lies.

If Amazon had a sale for every item I’ve (and many millions just like me) placed in my “cart” but ended up never actually buying, Amazon’s stock would be several times higher than it is.


13 posted on 11/11/2013 9:11:58 PM PST by House Atreides ( D)
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To: darkwing104
So if I have 20 plans in my basket, that counts as 20 people? SNL, Letterman, and Leno are gonna be all over this one . LOL !!! Obamacare - EPIC FAILURE !!!


14 posted on 11/11/2013 9:44:19 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: grundle

A new twist on (illegal) channel stuffing?


15 posted on 11/12/2013 12:26:08 AM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: grundle

Ah - the classic liberal mentality - it’s the INTENT that matters more than the RESULT!


16 posted on 11/12/2013 5:19:03 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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