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72 Absurd Items ObamaCare Requires Your Health Insurance to Cover
Conservative HQ ^ | 11/08/13 | Ben Hart

Posted on 11/11/2013 5:28:25 PM PST by xzins

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To: xzins

There’s plenty of people that don’t want to die early because they don’t know they have easily treatable endocrine disease.

Like I said, if you don’t have it, or don’t know someone that has it, you don’t know the toll it takes on the body and the psyche.


101 posted on 11/12/2013 11:30:15 AM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: xzins

ping for later read on comments


102 posted on 11/12/2013 11:47:22 AM PST by deadmenvote
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
“7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.”

Illegals will be exempted from this, I'm sure.

103 posted on 11/12/2013 12:53:18 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Deo volente

Agree 100% ..... Stay safe !


104 posted on 11/12/2013 1:49:29 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: xzins

The Exchanges charge a 2% fee for hosting enrollments. Imagine if you were lucky enough to be an Exchange owner - 2% of every policy purchased. If a million people paid $3,000 you would skim off a nice chunk of change. Hope for losers, change for winners, “Ex” “change”.


105 posted on 11/12/2013 3:08:59 PM PST by Jumper
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To: taildragger
What is really funny to me is all that stuff is a Cadillac Plan, but he is gonna tax those brutally, yet his minions who sign up for this mess get this full boat BCBS type plan with a subsidy, and we all get to pay for it Redistribution, plain and simple.

It ends when we decide to stop working our assess off to pay for this ****.

If I have to choose between starting a new life in a different country or watching my future children grow up as half-starved slaves....easy choice. America is dead anyway.
106 posted on 11/12/2013 5:31:41 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
“7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.” Jail people for going to the ER without health insurance?! there is no ‘right say’ for the gov’t to impose a ‘requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance.’

So we've finally reached the point where suicide is rational response to sudden unemployment. Well if I lose my job I'm not going out without taking leftist vermin with me!
107 posted on 11/12/2013 5:34:30 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Kryn-Man
This is the purest form of stupidity that ever existed. Why is anyone even discussing how we implement this disaster? The American people have been lied to, and the perpetrators need to be held accountable. How do these people face themselves and their children everyday? Not the America I know.

Easily. They make excuses for everything they do and they regard their children to be personal property...so they don't really give a damn what their kids think about them.
108 posted on 11/12/2013 5:36:26 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Alberta's Child
If you go to the ER without insurance you should just get a bill — plain and simple. If you don’t pay the bill, you go to jail. Case closed.

Ambulances will deliver you if you can't give informed consent to stop treatment. So if you are unemployed you might as well kill yourself ahead of time.
109 posted on 11/12/2013 5:38:15 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Kryn-Man
This is the purest form of stupidity that ever existed. Why is anyone even discussing how we implement this disaster? The American people have been lied to, and the perpetrators need to be held accountable. How do these people face themselves and their children everyday? Not the America I know.

why....WHY??? Because half the country is filled with lazy idiots and the other half are too stupid to realize that they are working their butts off for NOTHING!! Instead of rising up and overthrowing this dictatorship, you all just go about your pointless lives and occasionally whine about it on the internet.

I for one refuse to live in this country as a slave. If I can't crush the Democrats by myself then I'll start a new life in a different land. Maybe some remote island. I'll be poor but at least I'll be free.
110 posted on 11/12/2013 5:42:29 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: MarkL
...hoping to turn the US health care system, formerly one of the best in the world, into a clone of the NHS.

Brings up another issue on Obamacare lost jobs.

There are a lot of Canadians who have invested in winter time shares and 2nd homes in the US, in major part for access to healthcare here in the US. They hate having to wait 6 months to get permission to have a doctor's visit or an outpatient procedure performed.

Local economies depending upon foreign tourism need to be prepared to take a substantial loss in tourist trade when Obamacare goes into effect.

111 posted on 11/12/2013 5:58:08 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: xzins

This article was pretty good, until I got to #7:

“Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads)...”
???
That’s hardly a free market solution.


112 posted on 11/13/2013 8:57:08 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: FBD

I believe that the idea is that they are taking something without paying, and that taking without paying is some variety of theft.

So, if it is theft, it really isn’t an issue of free markets. It’s a matter of criminal law.


113 posted on 11/13/2013 9:17:47 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

As I’m sure you’re aware, hospitals can and often do, take people to collections if they don’t pay. But going to an emergency room for treatment without insurance coverage isn’t a criminal matter. Or it shouldn’t be, anyway.


114 posted on 11/13/2013 10:23:34 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: FBD

NOT PAYING is a reasonable bit of evidence one could use to conclude a theft had been intended.

Try it at WalMart.


115 posted on 11/13/2013 10:25:35 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

The difference is the methods of billing, yes?. No one ever receives a bill for services rendered at the time of an emergency room treatment... If one leaves the hospital pharmacy without paying for a prescription, then yes that’s theft. But I’ve yet to see a cash register at the checkout of a hospital emergency room. If that was the expectation up front then your Walmart analogy would be relevant.
Regards


116 posted on 11/13/2013 10:38:58 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: xzins

If you have a miracle of the Abraham/Sarah dimension, I would think that the Lord could also provide funding for the medical costs of the pregnancy.


117 posted on 11/13/2013 10:52:11 AM PST by BruceS
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To: xzins

That “vision and dental coverage” would be pediatric coverage.


118 posted on 11/13/2013 5:17:57 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Cvengr
Brings up another issue on Obamacare lost jobs.

Not just tourism jobs. When people learn that they will have to pay hundreds of dollars a month extra for insurance, and thousands more if they need medical care, that will cut WAY DOWN on disposable income. What Barky and Friends don't seem to realize is that it's the middle class that spends disposable income on things like new cars, new homes, and stuff that furnishes those homes. The same people that Barky and Friends expect to pay for the new medical care services for tens of millions of new "patients." How many auto workers will find themselves laid off? How many in the construction business? And how many in the industries that supply and service auto manufacturing and construction?

Mark

119 posted on 11/13/2013 5:21:44 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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120 posted on 11/13/2013 5:26:04 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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