Skip to comments.US, France, Britain: Iran nuclear negotiations have reached an abrupt halt (France holds the line)
Posted on 11/09/2013 6:18:24 AM PST by Dave346
After negotiating with help of US secretary of state, French FM stresses importance of Israel's security concerns, says there will be no deal; US diplomats tell 'LA Times' talks will continue at least into next week.
France said on Saturday there was no certainty nuclear talks under way with Iran in Geneva would succeed because of major stumbling blocks over an initial proposed text on a deal, and the importance of Israel's security concerns.
"As I speak to you, I cannot say there is any certainty that we can conclude" the talks, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on France Inter radio, noting that France could not accept a "sucker's deal".
Top diplomats from Iran and six world powers are in a third day of negotiations over Iran's nuclear program to try to end a decade-old standoff. The West suspects that Iran is enriching uranium to develop nuclear weapons capability. Tehran denies this.
"The security concerns of Israel and all the countries of the region have to be taken into account," Fabius said.
Among the sticking points for Paris, Fabius said that France wanted Iran to stop operations at its Arak reactor during the negotiations and said there were questions about Iran's stock of uranium enriched to 20 percent.
France has traditionally taken a tougher line on Iran than most other world powers and Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif has accused it of being more intransigent in talks than the United States.
Among the sticking points, Fabius said, was a call for Iran to halt operations at its Arak research reactor - a potential producer of bomb-grade plutonium - while the negotiating process goes on, as well as questions about Iran's stock of uranium enriched to 20 percent of fissile purity.
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“French FM stresses importance of Israel’s security concerns”
I never thought I’d say, “Way to go, France.” A “sucker’s deal” indeed. Very plain talk from a diplomat.
France is probably angling for the contacts to build the reactors.
There may still be a deal:
EXCERPT: “Word that Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and a senior Chinese official from Beijing also were headed to the talks provided fresh hope for at least an interim deal, perhaps on Saturday.”
World powers, Iran seek nuclear deal despite Israeli opposition
Kerry needs a success, hope this is not his legacy. Also, considering how Obama is handling the mess of the ACA rollout, this Iranian rollout can not turn out well!! It’s more then a systemic problem.
How far our country has fallen. France is defending our allies.
France to Obama....... you spy, you die
Reference: NSA listening in in France
Not sure if this ‘deal’ means anything since Obama let the horse out of the barn months ago...
I think this is what you really meant
Israel accuses US of deceit on nuclear deal with Iran. Geneva signing drags out as Iran ups its price
Regardless of how you might or might not doubt Debka as a source, I would recommend reading this in its entirety — has some interesting insights and more details about Obama’s deception tactics — telling Israel one thing and doing another.
EXCERPT: “From those conversations, Netanyahu learned to his dismay that the version of the accord he had received from Kerry in the first of their three conversations differed substantially from the outline prepared for signing in Geneva especially in the key clause of sanctions relief.
While Obama and Kerry have admitted only to lifting a few minor reversible sanctions and modest sanctions relief as part of the deal, Israel discovered a far more generous package of concessions was on offer. The Europeans would lead the way in easing sanctions to allow Washington to show clean hands especially to Congress.
By Friday, the Iranians understood that the Obama administration was so hell-bent on signing the first ever international accord on their nuclear program, that they could afford without much risk to up the price for their signature and extort more last-minute concessions.”
France? What has happened? Are they the new leaders of the Free World? Thank you Obama! What are you going to do? Drone Strikes on Paris?
Three more years of this nonsense. Will the voters push back or will they be too sick too care due to the Iatrogenic nature of Obamacare?
The shame one has to feel when the U.S. is being exceeded in rational diplomacy by the French is truly traumatic.
France has woken up to the problem that is Islam, along with a few other countries in Europe. Our problem, is that we have a muslim in the White House.
No one has anything to force France to sell out Israel and France seems to see the bigger picture.
Viva La France!
Wow also. Remember France is where all these Muzzies run to when the pressure is on in their country back home. That Ayatollah Komennie who came back from France to take over Iran after the revolution. He hunkered down in France all those years after the Shaw got over thrown.
France!!!! they understand the Persian mindset and plan. Halleluiah!!
The U.S. -(Kerry/Obama) dupes for fancy words.
If they were women they would bedded by every sweet talking guy.
All for show. Obama is doing back door deals with Iran the terrorist state.
and the American media is silent.
As in Judges 7, once more God would show how only
300 men French cheese-eating surrender monkeys can deliver the Iranian ites", lest the two-faced, traitorous horse-face be said (by the MSM) to have delivered them by his own hand.
unlike our vainglorious buffoon. P T Barnum sure had Kerry's number.
Viva la France?
Gotta give the Frogz a little credit. Remember it was just a few weeks ago that they sent an armed force into Mali to shut down a bunch of Muzzie Hoodlums. That, along with their internal problems with immigrant Muzzies has them using up their sense of humor for putting up with general Muzzie krap. And France ain’t that far away from Asia Minor such that a radiation cloud anywhere in the ‘hood would affect France directly. -—Wouldn’t be surprising at all if France was willing to help Ben shut down the Mullah’s nuke hobby shop.
“Wouldnt be surprising at all if France was willing to help Ben shut down the Mullahs nuke hobby shop.”
I’d be shocked. They’d have universal riots in France. Hundreds would die. Also, they don’t have the logistics and nobody can loan them the tankers they’d need to fly any distance; as Obama won’t. Also, they’d have to pass by plenty of Obama controlled space coming and going.
Nope, we’re going to have to rely on Saudi Arabia’s self interest here. I don’t know if they’re up for it and the attempt may cause their (I think) fragile regime to collapse under its own weight.
Oh, let’s not forget the wildcard sitting on the boarder; Turkey.
I guess Lurch and his Dear Leader can accept a sucker deal.
After all, goes the line, we got Iraq wrong, how do we know the truth about Iran? Even French President Jacques Chirac now seems to get it. He recently warned, "Leaders of any state that uses terrorist means against us, as well as any that may be envisaging, in one way or another, using weapons of mass destruction, must understand that they would be exposing themselves to a firm and appropriate response on our behalf," said Chirac. "That response could be conventional, it could also be of another nature," clearly referring to France's nuclear weapons.
One thing’s for sure. The political classes of the nations (including our own for a long time) are not honest or loyal with Israel as an ally or honest with themselves about the intentions of Iran and its allies. They continue getting big cash flow from global trade and big government for putting off war with foreign enemies. Because of that dishonesty, world nuclear war becomes ever more likely in time. Look at the mess that the aging counter-culture kids running every political faction have made.
Iran talks have concluded without a deal to be resumed at a later date!
Ball is back in Netanyahu’s court - what will he do now?
The next round of talks will be in 7-10 days.
Assuming of course Netanyahu hasn’t launched war by then.....
France sees Iran dominating Syria and Syria dominating Lebanon. France supports the Lebanese Maronite Christian minority that is being dominated by Syria and the Iranian backed Hezollah.
Both countries were French colonial territories from 1920-1943.
You know, I’d feel a whole lot better is we had a few
tough used car sales men and a finance manager doing
A communist neighborhood organizer and a hero wannabe,
oh, I am so depressed just thinking about it.
France is waking up. We are not.
The house of Saud is buying nukes from Pakistan. The expect us to support Iran
They do not side with them like Obama does.
“The house of Saud is buying nukes from Pakistan. The expect us to support Iran”
It’s about 50 years way past the time when USA politicians need to support ONLY the USA first, and forget the Middle East and China. Sorry if that offends the few that might believe that USA interests should be other than first.
Socialist France saves the world from the perfidious surrender of Obama. Arugula-eating surrender monkey.
French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on France Inter radio, noting that France could not accept a “sucker's deal”.
This is amazing. The French are showing more backbone and moral considerations than the Obama administration.
This means that the POTUS is ready for a “sucker's deal” and is eager to let Iran develop nuclear weapons while France is not.
All of the “deals” reached by this administration have been “sucker deals” and who knows this better than Vlad Putin as he watches the US exit the world stage.
Dark Ages ahead folks. Thank you Mr. President for putting our heads into a noose.
Israel now feels like Czechoslovakia, 1938. Thanks Neville Chamobama. Back stabbing is how you survive.
Sounds great, on paper.
Of course that will crash the economy, create a power vacuum that will be filled by someone who more than likely doesn’t like us, and push gas prices higher than ever before.
Lots of pain when you drop playing empire. Not to mention the scramble would probably lead to a world war, again.
Kind of like the various bubbles in the economy. It will pop, the question is if you try to do it in a controlled manner, or just let it blow up.
What should worry us most in America is not a missile from a foreign state, but a nuke in a suitcase used either as a false flag by a foreign government to gain political and PR advantage, or from a state sponsored terrorist group.. All nations have grown too devious which is why we need to spy on friends and enemies.....but not on Americans.