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Kathleen Sebelius announces new mental health parity requirements for health insurers
Washington Examiner ^ | 11-8-2013

Posted on 11/08/2013 11:01:19 AM PST by markomalley

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To: palmer

Drugs have improved things a lot since the 1970s, but many of the drugs by themselves are less than optimum (some of the uninstitutionalized psychotic killers were actually taking drugs) and there needs to be much more research in this area. Gene therapy may also be a possibility someday.

I didn’t write this and I do not agree with it.


141 posted on 11/08/2013 4:09:07 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: markomalley

When they were pushing Hillarycare some years back, a legislator (who had read the bill), said ~”If we pass this, in five years, people will be hunting Democrats with dogs!”

I’m going to invest in Blue Tick futures.


142 posted on 11/08/2013 4:16:52 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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It should now be clear to everyone that the Marxist regime is attempting to crush the insurance industry.


143 posted on 11/08/2013 4:20:47 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: markomalley

144 posted on 11/08/2013 4:32:25 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: markomalley
Dems just never stop pandering to their base do they?

HIV sodomites covered
Drug users covered
The Insane covered

and all subsidized by you and me.

145 posted on 11/08/2013 4:54:30 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: markomalley

Sbeelius is herself a brain crying in the wilderness for a body!


146 posted on 11/08/2013 5:16:40 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: markomalley

Is this bitch for real?


147 posted on 11/08/2013 6:15:32 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: markomalley

Insurance rates will go up again.


148 posted on 11/08/2013 6:50:18 PM PST by rawhide
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To: rawhide

by a lot probably


149 posted on 11/08/2013 6:55:56 PM PST by GeronL
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To: markomalley

And its all free!


150 posted on 11/08/2013 7:11:59 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Stillwaters

Ping


151 posted on 11/08/2013 8:02:58 PM PST by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: edcoil

I am sure all those crazy folks have lots of money that they stash in their socks while sleeping under the bridges. They’ll be falling all over themselves getting on the computer at the library so they can sign up with Obama.


152 posted on 11/08/2013 8:26:19 PM PST by Flint
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To: markomalley

Mental health issues, not just mental illness issues?

It’s mentally healthy to have friends and to socialize. “Paid friends” no longer simply a derogatory description of therapists, but an acknowledged reality?

Studies have shown that excluding extreme illness, that therapy does not typically increase mental health, and tends to make people addicted to therapy.


153 posted on 11/08/2013 8:28:07 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: truth_seeker

In addition to the issue of on/off medicine is the issue is that the diagnostic tools are very poor. On AVERAGE psych medicines make things worse...because psychiatrists have to go through trial and error to such a high degree, and it usually takes multiple attempts before an improvement is seen, if at all. ...and then comes the dosage adjustments.


154 posted on 11/08/2013 9:32:24 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Bushbacker1

What were they calling the depression from the world not being like Avatar?


155 posted on 11/08/2013 9:44:07 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“In addition to the issue of on/off medicine is the issue is that the diagnostic tools are very poor. On AVERAGE psych medicines make things worse...because psychiatrists have to go through trial and error to such a high degree, and it usually takes multiple attempts before an improvement is seen, if at all. ...and then comes the dosage adjustments.”

I think in the long run, psych meds make things better. The patient can foul it up, by going on/off, or using mind altering substances.

I know several people that suffer from depression and take their meds as prescribed, and the result is they are far better.

But these are not substance abusers, attempting to self-medicate.


156 posted on 11/08/2013 9:50:14 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: markomalley

The REAL end game. Who is going to stop us from becoming Nazi Germany, Part 2?


157 posted on 11/08/2013 9:57:48 PM PST by madison10
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To: truth_seeker

“I know several people that suffer from depression and take their meds as prescribed, and the result is they are far better”

I understand that. My comment is that choosing which medicine will get them to that improvement is poorly supported by diagnostic tools currently available. Typically it will take three or more attempts to get to one which provides an improvement...assuming the individual is an appropriate candidate at all. Sometimes the first one works. Sometimes the eighth one works, but only in combination with others. None of this is saying the medicines in the broad sense are useless, but rather that the first attempt is usually wrong, and the second and third attempts are often wrong.


158 posted on 11/08/2013 10:07:56 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: dan on the right

Your reply is one of the funniest ever on FR. I laughed out loud at it eight hours ago at work, and I just re-read it and laughed out loud again. Thank you. Well done.


159 posted on 11/08/2013 10:10:23 PM PST by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: truth_seeker

Excellent post. I have known several people (including some extended family) who have had legitimate emotional and mental issues that were treated successfully with therapy and/or medication.

Now, I’ll be the first to say I believe there’s a lot of baloney put out in the field - especially from the pop-psych types you see on tv or the hucksters who cater to spoiled celebrities wanting to gin up press for themselves. And I do think there is a problem with over-prescribing some drugs as a result of misdiagnosis (IMHO ADHD is a bad one for this). But for the folks who have legitimate mental health problems, it’s as real and as serious as having a broken arm or a bleeding ulcer.


160 posted on 11/09/2013 3:44:59 AM PST by DemforBush (Leave the gun, take the catnip toy.)
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