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GOP Gives Up Virginia To Democrats Instead Of Giving Tea Party and Social Conservatives A Win
Independent Journal Review ^ | November 6, 2013 | Independent Journal Review

Posted on 11/06/2013 5:50:04 AM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: Starboard

We cannot completrely defund the GOP. The Corps and the Chamber of commerce will always be a source of income for the GOP.


41 posted on 11/06/2013 6:32:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

the GOPe and their Democrat buddies will throw other monkey-wrenches into the works

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Make no mistake about it, the GOPe and the Democrats don’t want anyone else crashing their party.

The fact of the matter is that there is a deeply ingrained status quo culture in the GOP and it will visciously fight any would be “intruders”.


42 posted on 11/06/2013 6:32:14 AM PST by Starboard
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To: central_va

You are right about that. But the GOP just wants our money and our votes, not our principles. We can no longer fund an organization that works against our interests.

Individuals can make a difference. Collectively, we represent a lot of money and it is an important “adjunct” to the other sources of income for the GOP. IMO our donations can be better put to use in the Tea Party.


43 posted on 11/06/2013 6:36:19 AM PST by Starboard
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I’m well aware of all the “other” parties my friend. All together, they might eek out 2 or 3%, they are not viable parties.

“Rock, rock
Rock lobster”


44 posted on 11/06/2013 6:36:46 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Starboard

I’ve learned to send money DIRECTLY to the candidate. Never filter your contributions through the RNC.


45 posted on 11/06/2013 6:39:00 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

That approach works for me.


46 posted on 11/06/2013 6:40:55 AM PST by Starboard
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To: FatherFig1o155

I stand corrected....


47 posted on 11/06/2013 6:46:01 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Timber Rattler

Priebus and Rove are enabling Democrat victories...


48 posted on 11/06/2013 6:51:54 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I will actively work against the Republican Party period. No matter who or what.


49 posted on 11/06/2013 6:54:55 AM PST by Ramonne
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To: littleharbour
Yep...like one FReeper said, last night, Cuccinelli ran as an Independent against the DNC, Libertarians AND the GOPe. Tough battle.
50 posted on 11/06/2013 6:55:06 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Timber Rattler; skeeter; AppyPappy

See Dick.

See Dick vote.

See Dick believe his vote actually means something.

Silly Dick.

Silly, silly Dick.


51 posted on 11/06/2013 6:59:36 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Jane Long
Yep...like one FReeper said, last night, Cuccinelli ran as an Independent against the DNC, Libertarians AND the GOPe. Tough battle.

...and damn near pulled it off. What else could we have done to improve his chances? That is what we need to work on...

52 posted on 11/06/2013 6:59:48 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: skeeter

We can’t give up! We need to start doing what they do to win.


53 posted on 11/06/2013 7:01:36 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: jimbo123
The RNC chose to spend their donors' money on the New Jersey Fatass instead.

In a race the Democrats weren't even going to oppose.....They put up a sacrificial lamb that had no chance of winning. They want Christie to be the 2016 nominee, because they know they can crush him like a bug, just like McCain and Romney.

54 posted on 11/06/2013 7:01:49 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: AppyPappy
If I were a Democrat trying to fracture the Conservative movement, I would write this article.

What conservative movement are you referring to?

The only "conservative movement" in the GOP is the movement away from conservatism.

The article is true. The GOP leadership is actively working against conservatives.

55 posted on 11/06/2013 7:02:23 AM PST by Washi
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To: central_va

“I’ve learned to send money DIRECTLY to the candidate. Never filter your contributions through the RNC.”

Worth repeating a million times. Every candidate has offices. Go there and donate directly. Heck, you’ll even get all kinds of nifty signs and swag to advertise for the candidate, too!

The RNC is done.


56 posted on 11/06/2013 7:06:51 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Jim Noble
Even though I have three adult children living in Virginia, I am 5000 miles away in Germany so I will not presume to reply to your questions except to say that my general impression is that Ken Cuccinelli is sound on all the issues from a conservative point of view and there is nothing truly exceptional in any of his utterances which, if undistorted, would give soccer moms occasion to fear him.

I am still preoccupied by the betrayal of the Republican establishment but there are some preliminary observations which should be made:

First, the RNC will produce a postmortem which should be data heavy and BS light but there is no assurance that any data favorable to truth much less to the tea party will be made public. After the last presidential election, I was screaming for us to find data to answer the very questions you raised in your perceptive reply, questions far more perceptive I might add that are appearing in much of the press.

Second, the preliminary analysis is that this is a loss occasioned by a gender gap. My daughter, 43 years of age, originally was under the impression that Cuccinelli missed a step on the issue of birth control so, since she is politically aware, I conclude the depth of ignorance across the board must have been staggering. At least it was potentially there to the degree that Terry McAuliffe's demagoguery could find fertile ground.

Third, I am inclined to believe that this was a momentum election. That is, McAuliffe grabbed the momentum in the beginning with his big television buy, extended his lead during the government shutdown, lost much of it as the momentum shifted because of Obamacare, and saved the day with the extensive shoe leather get out the vote campaign.

I think McAuliffe said that they had made 3 1/2 million doorbell rings which no doubt was facilitated by the apparatus left over from Obama's startling ground game which went a long way toward winning Obama the presidential election. I cannot conceive that our side had anything like that kind of ground game. It is in this context, perhaps more than the TV war, that the stinginess (or sabotage) of the Republican elite did the most harm.

Until the Republicans get this ground game in hand and move up to the 21st century we will face loss after loss.


57 posted on 11/06/2013 7:14:39 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: who knows what evil?
...and damn near pulled it off. What else could we have done to improve his chances? That is what we need to work on...

Hopefully the Tea Party groups and other Conservative PACs/groups are studying this and forming/finalizing a game plan...since we know the RNC is NOT and has, in fact, become our opponent.

58 posted on 11/06/2013 7:20:40 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: DouglasKC
The Republican party is DONE with conservatism. Done. I'm beginning to think that they've always been against conservatism

They've always been against conservatism WHEN A CONSERVATIVE CAN ACTUALLY WIN.

59 posted on 11/06/2013 7:33:53 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; nathanbedford; Cringing Negativism Network
Libertarian, liberal....same thing. It's just a freakin ruse

I disagree, sorta.

Libertarians (real ones) don't support the welfare state, and they don't support the Fourth Branch. Most libertarians would ACTUALLY end the Department of Education and the EPA, if they had the power to do so.

So, a conservative (not a GOPe) candidate actually has something to offer those people. But, the problem is that most of them are also allergic to any politics pertaining to things between the navel and the knees.

The Democrats have been successful - brilliantly so - with the War on Women™. No Republican candidate attacked in this way has prevailed in a statewide or national election since Stephanopoulos brought up birth control for the first time in the January 2012 debate. Our candidates need to be able to answer the unfair questions about f***ing in a way that is humorous and engaging, rather than stumbling and repellant.

60 posted on 11/06/2013 7:44:08 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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