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In first month, the vast majority of Obamacare sign-ups are in Medicaid
washingtonpost ^ | November 1 | Sarah Kliff,

Posted on 11/03/2013 6:58:10 AM PST by dennisw

The first month of the new health law’s rollout reveals an unexpected pattern in several states: a crush of people applying for an expansion of Medicaid and a trickle of sign-ups for private insurance.

This early imbalance — in some places, nine out of 10 enrollees are in Medicaid — has taken some experts by surprise. The Affordable Care Act, which expanded Medicaid to cover millions of the poorest Americans who couldn’t otherwise afford coverage, envisions a more even split with an expanded, robust private market.

“When we first saw the numbers, everyone’s eyes kind of bugged out,” said Matt Salo, who runs the National Association of Medicaid Directors. “Of the people walking through the door, 90 percent are on Medicaid. We’re thinking, what planet is this happening on?”

The yawning gap between public and private enrollment is handing Republicans yet another line of criticism against President Obama’s health overhaul — that the law is primarily becoming an expansion of a costly entitlement program.

Supporters, however, caution against reading too much into the early numbers. Some of the states that set up their own exchanges, including Maryland, are suffering Web site glitches similar to those of the national system, and that is delaying private plan enrollments.

But if this trend continues, experts say it could prove costly for states that will have to help pay for some of these new Medicaid enrollees. It would widen disparities between the states that opted to expand the entitlement program and those that have not.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clowardpiven; obamacare; unexpected
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1 posted on 11/03/2013 6:58:10 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

The inside the Beltway experts and geniuses are stumped. But they aren’t worried because they get paid (most likely via your taxes) if they are wrong or right.


2 posted on 11/03/2013 7:00:00 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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“in some places, nine out of 10 enrollees are in Medicaid — has taken some experts by surprise.”

They need better “experts”.


3 posted on 11/03/2013 7:01:13 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: dennisw
an unexpected pattern

Classic Cloward-Piven. "Unexpected" only by morons.

4 posted on 11/03/2013 7:02:00 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: dennisw

I would bet less than 1000 people have signed up


5 posted on 11/03/2013 7:02:04 AM PST by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: dennisw
But if this trend continues, experts say it could prove costly for states that will have to help pay for some of these new Medicaid enrollees.

But, but, but....the liberals PROMISED us that we would save money by getting people to pay for their own way instead of getting the taxpayers to foot other peoples medical bills!

6 posted on 11/03/2013 7:04:12 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: dennisw

I’ve suspected this from the beginning.

Most Obama voters will “skate” past the problems of Obamacare via waivers, subsidies, or medicaid.

The regime has a strong record on rewarding friends and punishing enemies.

That’s the Chicago Way.


7 posted on 11/03/2013 7:07:03 AM PST by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: dennisw
"Experts" baffled by the fact that people signing up for FREE benefits greatly outnumber those signing up to PAY for benefits... How could anyone foresee such an outcome???
8 posted on 11/03/2013 7:07:16 AM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: dennisw
This just in..., UNEXPECTEDLY!
9 posted on 11/03/2013 7:08:09 AM PST by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
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To: dennisw
"Experts" at what, exactly?

Certainly, not experts in human economic behavior.

Certainly, not experts in economics.

Experts at working for government bureaucracies, perhaps.

10 posted on 11/03/2013 7:08:17 AM PST by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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...which expanded Medicaid to cover millions of the poorest Americans who couldn’t otherwise afford coverage...

So is that an admission that government-run healthcare doesn't work? I mean, wasn't Medicaid supposed to cover "the poorest" anyway? And if it isn't covering the "poorest" who is being covered?

11 posted on 11/03/2013 7:10:21 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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12 posted on 11/03/2013 7:11:24 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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"Some of the early Medicaid surge may have to do with the relative ease of finding potential enrollees who already use public programs. Arkansas and Oregon, for example, sent notices to hundreds of thousands of food stamp beneficiaries who the states knew to fall below Medicaid’s income cutoff. To enroll, they simply needed to make a phone call or return the form.

“We weren’t sure what to expect,” Arkansas Medicaid spokeswoman Amy Webb said. “We have been very pleased with the response.”

Ms. Webb lies. This is exactly what they were expecting. This was their plan all along.

From a story about it early this year:

"Earlier today, the Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services notified state officials in Arkansas that it has approved the states' Medicaid expansion plan. And this is not any old expansion plan: Arkansas will be the only state in the country that will use Medicaid dollars to purchase private health insurance for its new public program enrollees."

"There are about 200,000 Arkansans who qualify for the Medicaid expansion. Instead of having them enroll in the public program, like other states will do, Arkansas will send them to their new health insurance marketplace to buy individual plans. When they get to the point of purchase, the Medicaid agency will foot the tab for their health insurance coverage."

13 posted on 11/03/2013 7:12:22 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: nascarnation

Yup ,they want everyone on the dole and the insurance companies out of business.


14 posted on 11/03/2013 7:16:24 AM PST by refermech
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To: Lurker
“in some places, nine out of 10 enrollees are in Medicaid — has taken some experts by surprise.” They need better “experts”.

Yes - said "experts" knew the conditions that were needed for "success" and just assumed that it would occur. Like my wife is wont to say, "I know how they vote".

15 posted on 11/03/2013 7:16:41 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Mr. K

Safe bet.


16 posted on 11/03/2013 7:17:35 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: La Lydia

This crafty scheme must mean US taxpayers will be paying for these new Arkanasa Medicaid enrollees.. Not Arkansas taxpayers


17 posted on 11/03/2013 7:19:22 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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Great! We were all pissed at Brewer when she signed on to the Medicaid expansion. This is going to bankrupt Arizona


18 posted on 11/03/2013 7:26:08 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: dennisw; don-o
“When we first saw the numbers, everyone’s eyes kind of bugged out,” said Matt Salo, who runs the National Association of Medicaid Directors. “Of the people walking through the door, 90 percent are on Medicaid. We’re thinking, what planet is this happening on?”

I'm thinking, "What planet are you from?"

Geez, and this guy is supposedly at the top of his profession. As I was just remarking to my husband, we both saw this coming 5 or 6 years ago.

It's hard to believe how stupid thse people are.

19 posted on 11/03/2013 7:26:52 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Frankly.)
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Lots of new leaches hanging off the taxpayers.


20 posted on 11/03/2013 7:33:27 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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