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Report: Ted Cruz could ride Tea Party support to White House [birther trolls stay out! JimRob]
Washington Examiner ^ | NOVEMBER 1, 2013 AT 11:21 AM | PAUL BEDARD

Posted on 11/01/2013 12:22:43 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

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To: clamper1797

I think its a given that Ted Cruz is the best conservative candidate ... now who should run with him on the ticket? Mike Lee?


Works for me. They seem to go together like Roy Rogers and Gabby Hays.


81 posted on 11/01/2013 4:11:05 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: SoConPubbie
Instead of wading through Paul Bedard's interpretation of Kondik's article, why not go read the genuine article here.

Mr. Kondik is not nearly as positive as Mr. Bedard. This is best summarized in Kondik's closing paragraph:


82 posted on 11/01/2013 4:18:50 PM PDT by upchuck (I've got maternity care via Obamacare! Now, if I could just figure out how a male gets pregnant...)
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To: BlueStateRightist
Yep.

And, Obama has a huge enemies list. Probably more people dislike Obama than dislike Cruz.

83 posted on 11/01/2013 4:31:46 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: MrB

From the Era of Obama onward, the natural born citizen requirement is rendered moot and irrelevant.
To preclude any and all possible future references to this obsolete qualification, and thus to avoid confusion and pointless discourse, the phrase “natural born Citizen” should be expunged from Article II, Section 1, United States Constitution.


84 posted on 11/01/2013 4:34:26 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: upchuck
Mr. Kondik is not nearly as positive as Mr. Bedard. This is best summarized in Kondik's closing paragraph:

Why do I care about the negative opining's of any of the chattering class?

The truth is, as borne out by President Reagan, fidelity to Conservative Principle sells. It wins massive victories.

On the other hand, those who go all mushy-mouthed and abandon their principles or who never had any principles in the first place, George H. Bush, John McCain, Bob Dole, Mitt Romney, and lately, Rand Paul, provide, in stark relief, the negative results of such cowardly behavior.
85 posted on 11/01/2013 4:47:15 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
"A Birther is someone, for whatever motivation, good or bad, argues inane, unimportant points on this issue to the distraction of everything, and everyone else. "

Nothing is more important than defending the Constitution, including the Article II natural born Citizen requirement for POTUS.

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

A Dissertation on Manner of Acquiring Character & Privileges of Citizen of U.S.-by David Ramsay-1789

The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

86 posted on 11/01/2013 4:47:51 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: PapaNew

“I don’t understand why Obama’s mother’s citizenship wouldn’t transfer to Obama, if in fact she was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth. Can you elucidate?”

Sure::

US Law clearly stipulates: “If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”

Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years prior to Barack Obama’s birth, but after age 16.

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aforementioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.


87 posted on 11/01/2013 5:52:35 PM PDT by CelesteChristi
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To: Godebert; SoConPubbie
Report: Ted Cruz could ride Tea Party support to White House

Obama's refusal to prove his eligibility has unfortunately become the main issue of such a good Ted Cruz/Tea Party article. Let's stop with the implications that Birthers/Constitutionalists should have a problem with Ted Cruz's eligibility to become President of the United States when there is no problem since he's as eligible as John McCain.

Perhaps this article title's ending in brackets was to bait Constitutionalists?

What a shame that SoConPubbie would actually try to pin constitutionalists against Ted Cruz on a false premise that Senator Cruz is as ineligible as Barack Hussein Obama when the opposite is true.

I AM a Birther and do NOT see how one can imply that Ted Cruz has an eligibilty problem like Obama. I am also a Ted Cruz supporter and because of that I'm offended that he be placed in the same category as Barack Hussein Obama especially if it's to create contraversy with the objective to pin Constitutional Conservatives against him before the Primaries even start.

Perhaps some people dislike "birthers" more than they like Cruz. So sad. The last thing I wish to see is another candidate McCain in 2016 because of manufacturing a crisis against a good man like Senator Ted Cruz.

The real story here is: Ted Cruz could ride Tea Party support to White House

Not birtherism.

88 posted on 11/01/2013 6:24:15 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Baum Threat

Yes, yes... Cruz/West!!


89 posted on 11/01/2013 6:36:55 PM PDT by CelesteChristi
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To: CelesteChristi
" His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen."

That is simply false. Natural born Citizenship requires TWO Citizen parents.

"The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776."....David Ramsay, 1789.

90 posted on 11/01/2013 6:43:27 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: CelesteChristi

HOW did Barry’s mom’s citizenship not transfer to him?


91 posted on 11/01/2013 6:58:46 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

How is Obama different than Cruz in this specific regard?
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Cruz has a much more impressive resume’ of accomplishments!
Arguing and winning cases before SCOTUS, clerking for a Justice, Texas Solicitor General, etc., before becoming a Senator. Plus, he’s a hell of a lot more intelligent!


92 posted on 11/01/2013 6:59:26 PM PDT by octex
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To: Viennacon

He is the ONLY LEADER IN THE PARTY!

Let’s face it. If we do, then mcf@ckus and bonedus and the rest won’t even run except away.


93 posted on 11/01/2013 7:13:25 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: octex

bttt


94 posted on 11/01/2013 7:13:44 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Walker?.....He’s for amnesty.....No Walker for me.


95 posted on 11/01/2013 7:15:23 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: SoConPubbie

Most liberals and RINOS think Hilary is unbeatable and perfect.

Deep down liberals and RINOS believe that Ted Cruz has the best chance of any Republican of fluking a victory against Hilary.

The people who think Ted Cruz is unelectable don’t think Hilary can be beaten by anyone. The only way Jeb or Christie get the nomination would be if Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Steve King and Sarah Palin run until the end and Jeb gets 17% of the vote.


96 posted on 11/01/2013 7:25:56 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Tennessee Conservative

Walker is okay as a Governor.


97 posted on 11/01/2013 7:27:12 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Jack Black

“HOW did Barry’s mom’s citizenship not transfer to him?”

US Law clearly stipulates: “If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”

Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawaii being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years prior to Barack Obama’s birth, but after age 16.

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawaii. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aforementioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.


98 posted on 11/01/2013 7:33:58 PM PDT by CelesteChristi
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To: Godebert

“The citizenship of no man could be previous to the declaration of independence, and, as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776.”....David Ramsay, 1789.

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I agree with Ramsey, but what Ramsey wrote and how US Law reads are two different things.


99 posted on 11/01/2013 7:41:21 PM PDT by CelesteChristi
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To: PapaNew

“So why do we (we=the good guys, us, the freedom lovers) want to validate their tactics by picking up and use the term, “birther”, the way they did/do?”

Exactly. Ask you self what kind of person would use such a liberal tactic and liberal phrase in trying to stir up trouble the way that only liberals can.


100 posted on 11/01/2013 7:46:58 PM PDT by Revel
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