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Top Hospitals Opt Out of Obamacare
US News & World Report ^ | October 30, 2013

Posted on 10/31/2013 6:52:35 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Obama Administration has been claiming that insurance companies will be competing for your dollars under the Affordable Care Act, but apparently they haven't surveyed the nation's top hospitals.

Americans who sign up for Obamacare will be getting a big surprise if they expect to access premium health care that may have been previously covered under their personal policies. Most of the top hospitals will accept insurance from just one or two companies operating under Obamacare.

"This doesn't surprise me," said Gail Wilensky, Medicare advisor for the second Bush Administration and senior fellow for Project HOPE. "There has been an incredible amount of focus on the premium cost and subsidy, and precious little focus on what you get for your money."

(Excerpt) Read more at health.usnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: failure; obamacare; obamacaredoctors; obamacarehospitals; rinocare; socialism
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1 posted on 10/31/2013 6:52:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

hospitals and doctors aren’t that sympathetic to self injury like needing a liver transplant because all you have done all your life is drink

or obesity caused by not eating right when you are diabetic

or copd because you have to have your two packs a day

or gang related injuries

coming to the emergency room because you don’t have a doctor


2 posted on 10/31/2013 6:56:08 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

These are those ‘fringe’, ‘underhanded’ hospitals.


3 posted on 10/31/2013 6:56:33 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

you can keep your doctor if you want to....


4 posted on 10/31/2013 6:56:46 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: AD from SpringBay

“bad apple” hospitals....


5 posted on 10/31/2013 6:57:10 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Random Act of Journalism!


6 posted on 10/31/2013 7:01:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Market forces drive all business no matter how much the govt interferes.

Is it really surprising that hospitals don't want to be under govt control over decision making and don't want a bunch of new customers demanding services and time for free.

7 posted on 10/31/2013 7:03:54 AM PDT by wmfights
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8 posted on 10/31/2013 7:04:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This information needs to be distributed widely.


9 posted on 10/31/2013 7:04:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If healthcare is a “right”, why do we have to go to Obama’s “Marketplace” and “shop” for it?


10 posted on 10/31/2013 7:05:11 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Have you had your ObamaCare Marketplace shopping experience today?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fluster Cluck...fixed it.


11 posted on 10/31/2013 7:05:29 AM PDT by twister881
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Look at this from the article....it REALLY is a remarkable piece of analysis considering the context of current economic ignorance. The writer ACTUALLY GIVES SOUND ECONOMIC TEACHING HERE:

Regulations driven by the Obama White House have indeed made insurance more affordable – if, like Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, you're looking only at price. But responding to Obamacare caps on premiums, many insurers will, in turn, simply offer top-tier doctors and hospitals far less cash for services rendered.

12 posted on 10/31/2013 7:09:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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“There has been an incredible amount of focus on the premium cost and subsidy, and precious little focus on what you get for your money.”

Any Democrat/leftist/liberal/progressive/RINO friends I had ... did not want to hear it.


13 posted on 10/31/2013 7:13:03 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is looking like a case study in cascading collapse.

The problems with the website are masking the issues with exploding premiums and deductable. It’s also helping mask the problems with people’s policies being cancelled.

THAT is masking the issues with what people are being provided for their money.

It’s like peeling an onion.


14 posted on 10/31/2013 7:14:54 AM PDT by tanknetter
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All the attention is on the bungled website at the moment. But there appear to be a few more major design flaws to the scheme.
First, the enrollee(using a nice name) will discover that there are few insurers in the exchanges.
Then he will discover the swoon-inducing premiums and deductibles.
Then he will discover that there are few doctors or hospitals who are participating.

This whole thing looks like a salmon spawn migration upriver. Only a few will make it.


15 posted on 10/31/2013 7:18:09 AM PDT by lurk
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elections have consequences.....


16 posted on 10/31/2013 7:22:05 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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“In many cases, consumers are shopping blind when it comes to what doctors and hospitals are included in their Obamacare exchange plans,” said Josh Archambault, senior fellow with the think tank Foundation for Government Accountability. “These patients will be in for a rude awakening once they need care, and get stuck with a big bill for going out-of-network without realizing it.”

Anyone signing up now, before knowing exactly what they’re getting & not getting, is either an idiot or desperate.


17 posted on 10/31/2013 7:36:50 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: lurk

And then “he” will discover he gets to pay for maternity care.


18 posted on 10/31/2013 7:52:38 AM PDT by USNA74
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
There is much more to this than most people know yet. The major insurance companies providing policies on the exchange are limiting their policies to only provide in-network coverage, and then excluding the specialized, research oriented hospitals from coverage.

For example, in New Hampshire the only insurance company offering insurance on the Obamacare exchange is Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield. All of the plans they offer only provide in-network coverage. Unlike their prior plans, they provide no benefits for out of network doctors or hospitals.

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Their network does not include any of the research or specialty hospitals in Boston, so if your kid needs to go to Children's Hospital, or your wife needs to go to Brigham and Women's for a high risk pregnancy, you don't have any insurance.

It isn't just that top hospitals are opting out, but the new Obamacare insurance doesn't cover them at all.

This problem isn't unique to New Hampshire. If you buy an Anthem policy in California, and you live in Los Angeles you have insurance that covers Cedars Sinai Hospital, or Children's Hospital of Los Angeles. But if you buy the same policy and you live in Riverside, or San Bernadino, you are out of luck.

Not having insurance that covers the medical care you or your children need when they are really sick is much worse than what we all had before. Some people were uninsured then, now when it comes to serious illnesses we all are going to be uninsured.

This is much worse than a death panel, under Obamacare you don't have insurance to get any care at all if you are really sick. Even if that care could save your life.

19 posted on 10/31/2013 8:18:09 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Travis McGee

Bttt


20 posted on 10/31/2013 8:49:32 AM PDT by The Californian (The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of opposition. Bob Jones, Sr.)
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