I wish more people would be willing to put more civility into our so called civilization.
Funny but my favorite western of all is ‘Open Range’ its a great shoot up the bad guys western and a great morality tale of what a man should stand-up for. I remember that Charile and Boss would always take off their hats, would rise from their seats when a women entered the room and would never set down until the lady was seated. Tell me what’s wrong with that. Maybe if our boys were taught to respect women and not to ever treat them like ‘street walkers’ then girls wouldn’t grow up feeling like the have to be one to get a boys attention and respect.
But I digress the main reason I brought this up is that this movie has a great love story between Charlie and Sue and the love was all based on respect for one another and not sex. To me one of the most romantic scenes of the movie is when after Charlie ask Sue to marry him and see says yes, he still asked her for premission to kiss her. I guess now days such a act would make some women wonder what kind of man is he? Maybe he’s not all man? Maybe he’s gay?
To me I would think that he just told her that he respects her and will never take her for granted.
Well maybe I am off the mark and getting more old fashion in my old age, but that’s my two cents.
Ladys I pinged you as I respect your thoughts. Am I wrong?
Kartographer, I agree with you.
We could all use more tidy dressing, more gestures of respect, and more consideration for people as individuals rather than as useful objects.
I met the woman that became my wife in early 1982. To this day I hold the car door open for her, hold her chair in restaurants, etc....
I don't see any reason not to.
“Maybe if our boys were taught to respect women and not to ever treat them like ‘street walkers’ then girls wouldn’t grow up feeling like the have to be one to get a boys attention and respect.”
I’m going to say here what I said on facebook yesterday to a young man who posted an article about Chivalry being dead. The author blamed modern technology, twitter, etc. but of course that is wrong. Chivalry is dead because the Feminists killed it.
I hope the next generation can fix a lot of the stuff that my generation destroyed.
I agree with you. I was watching Miracle on 34th Street one time, (the Maureen O’Hara version.) Her character, Doris, is an executive at Macy’s, and throughout the movie she appears to be equal with the male executives, (she has her own office and secretary, etc.) Apparently nobody in the 1940s blinked an eyelash at this, though the 1940s was supposedly a horrible, sexist, terrible time for women.
Anyway, there’s one scene where all the executives are called in to the big boss’s office. Several male executives are already seated when Doris walks in, and they all stand up when she enters. I always thought that was lovely. Here was this lady who had an important job, but she was still a LADY, and treated as such. I don’t think we should have thrown such manners away in the name of “equality.”
My mother had always sewed my clothes, I had no store bought clothes. Before they took me to college, they took me to Dallas to Sanger-Harris and told me I could buy any clothes I wanted. Forget long pants, no girl wore them. We wore skirts and blouses and dresses. I realized my life was going to be different than it had been. I was the church pianist and the preacher would pick me up early Sunday morning and drive to Kilgore where I played him on the radio and off the radio. That was going to stop.
Now, we come to Binnion Hall in Commerce Texas, the dorm for girls in the 50s. The house mother was a large woman and a girl had better not mess up. I was the studious kind so my parents paid for a private room so I wouldn't have a room mate. Thanks goodness I had that private room (and too bad you guys weren't in that building). They would run up and down the halls with little on or nothing on, it was crazy. If they made too much noise, big housemother would appear and you had better have clothes on then.
Every girl had to be in that dorm by 10 pm during the week and 11 pm on weekends, no exceptions. If you were late, you had to go to the dean of women and get chewed out. If you were the boy bringing a girl home late, you were sent to the dean of men and read the riot act.
Every girl was expected to walk to town on Sunday and go to church - every girl wore a hat and white gloves. If you didn't wear that garb, the housemother had a fit. We were carbon copies, everyone dressed up with hats and gloves.
I'm trying to think when that hat and gloves dressing thing ended. It lasted through the 50s and began to go out in the early 60s I believe. Yes, we all wore girdles, too. I weighed all of about 90 pounds at the most, and a girdle was useless on me, there was nothing to bunch together like a girdle does. I think that stopped for sure in the early 60s if not before.
Another thing changed in my life and made no sense to me. I was not allowed to go to dances in high school. I was tied to the church on Sunday in Kilgore and then church on Sunday and Wednesday nights playing the piano. I was the perfect daughter. I was not allowed to say any word that might be off color - one day in front of my mother I said, “Piffle”. She chewed me out for saying that word. No “heck” was ever said in that house. There were no playing cards in the house.
So, off I go to college and she makes an evening gown for me TO WEAR TO DANCES! Not one word did she ever say to me about going to college dances. All I could figure was her friends at church wouldn't know I went so it was okay. Boy, did I go to dances, and dances and dances.
Yes, Kartographer, in the 50s, boys were held to a higher standard in those days because girls had restrictions on them. When did it stop? I have to say in the early 60s, girls were not so restricted but I can't remember if we could wear long pants then out in public - don't think we would have worn long pants to church. I think when long pants were okay, girls lost their specialness. The boy saw a girl in pants, not a lovely creation in a dress and hat and gloves. The way merchandise is packaged, matters.
There are almost no ladies around these days.
Respect is nice, and often lacking in today’s society. It’s a two way street though. Treating others with respect is the first step in earning their respect.
When I was a freshman in college, I would open doors for women and girls my own age. After the fifth time I got called a sexist pig for doing so, I stopped.
I also would not kiss on the first date. Many of the girls I went on a date with assumed I was gay or not interested since I didn’t try to take off their top or their pants.
Things have changed.