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White House: President didn't mislead on insurance promise
NBC News ^ | Oct 29, 2013 | Michael O'Brien, Political Reporter

Posted on 10/29/2013 5:09:27 PM PDT by mdittmar

The White House argued Tuesday that President Barack Obama didn’t mislead the public when he repeatedly promised Americans “If you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan” under the Affordable Care Act.

Press secretary Jay Carney said the president’s declaration was still technically true even as almost two million Americans across the country are getting, or are about to get, letters canceling policies purchased on the individual market.

“No, the president was clear about a basic fact,” Carney said Tuesday when asked directly whether Obama had misled Americans about the impact of his signature domestic achievement. “If you had insurance that you liked on the individual market, and you wanted to keep that insurance…you could.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; commanderindeceit; obamabaitandswitch; obamacare; obamacarelies; obamagovernsbydeceit; obamalies; youcankeepit
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Guess it depends on what the definition of Insurance is.
1 posted on 10/29/2013 5:09:27 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Truly, we have never had a more craven WH press secretary than Jay Carney.


2 posted on 10/29/2013 5:11:21 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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3 posted on 10/29/2013 5:12:10 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BunnySlippers

One wonders how it must feel to be a paid liar.


4 posted on 10/29/2013 5:12:11 PM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about its implications.)
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To: mdittmar

Gives smoke and mirrors a bad name.


5 posted on 10/29/2013 5:12:27 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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You CAN keep your insurance until they are required to cancel you by law according to 0bamaCare.

0bama is always right.


6 posted on 10/29/2013 5:12:53 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ( "I was all for Obamacare, until I found out I was paying for it." - California Girl)
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To: mdittmar
And we wonder how the 1930s German people allowed you-know-who.
7 posted on 10/29/2013 5:13:06 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Obamacare forces slaves to buy their chains.)
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To: mdittmar

For once he’s right. Obama did not mislead; he flat out lied.


8 posted on 10/29/2013 5:13:45 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: musicman

ROFL AT RALPHIE PIC!!!


9 posted on 10/29/2013 5:14:03 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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“If you had insurance that you liked on the individual market, and you wanted to keep that insurance…you could.”

OK, thanks for the "clarification." How does that change anything? Obama knew a fact and stated the opposite. That is a LIE. He is a LIAR.

10 posted on 10/29/2013 5:14:18 PM PDT by thesharkboy (posting without reading the article since 1998)
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To: mdittmar
When obamma said: "If you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan, period.", by saying the word period at the end of his quote, it is to be taken as an absolute, no and, no but, nor or, iow, absolutely no exceptions to his statement.
11 posted on 10/29/2013 5:14:30 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: mdittmar

All depends on what your definition of "plan" is . . .

12 posted on 10/29/2013 5:14:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Obama believes that you don’t know enough to realize that you don’t really like your plan so he has decided for you what would be better.


13 posted on 10/29/2013 5:15:08 PM PDT by Teotwawki (For a person to get a thing without paying for it, another must pay for it without getting it.)
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To: mdittmar

” There really are people and institutions made up of people, who respond with hatred in the presence of goodness and would destroy the good insofar as it is in their power to do so. They do this not with conscious malice but blindly, lacking awareness of their own evil — indeed, seeking to avoid any such awareness. As has been described of the devil in religious literature, they hate the light and instinctively will do anything to avoid it, including attempting to extinguish it. They will destroy the light in their own children and in all other beings subject to their power.

Evil people hate the light because it reveals themselves to themselves. They hate goodness because it reveals their badness; they hate love because it reveals their laziness. They will destroy the light, the goodness, the love in order to avoid the pain of such self-awareness. My second conclusion, then, is that evil is laziness carried to its ultimate, extraordinary extreme. As I have defined it, love is the antithesis of laziness. Ordinary laziness is a passive failure to love. Some ordinarily lazy people may not lift a finger to extend themselves unless they are compelled to do so. Their being is a manifestation of nonlove; still, they are not evil.

Truly evil people, on the other hand, actively rather than passively avoid extending themselves. They will take any action in their power to protect their own laziness, to preserve the integrity of their sick self. Rather than nurturing others, they will actually destroy others in this cause. If necessary, they will even kill to escape the pain of their own spiritual growth. As the integrity of their sick self is threatened by the spiritual health of those around them, they will seek by all manner of means to crush and demolish the spiritual health that may exist near them.

I define evil, then, as the exercise of political power — that is, the imposition of one’s will upon others by overt or covert coercion — in order to avoid extending one’s self for the purpose of nurturing spiritual growth. Ordinary laziness is nonlove; evil is antilove.”

M. Scott Peck Psychiatrist & author

What does NOT apply here?


14 posted on 10/29/2013 5:16:51 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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No. He could quite possibly, (comma) intentionally stated punctuation, (comma) knowing his meaning was different. (period)


15 posted on 10/29/2013 5:18:26 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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IOW, an equivocation or, more precisely, and enthymeme.


16 posted on 10/29/2013 5:19:36 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: mdittmar
Hoist them (Dead Tree / Establishment media) ALL on their own Petards...
(NYT/LAT/WaPo/(A)merican (P)ravda / ABCNNBCB$ / FauxNC)


17 posted on 10/29/2013 5:22:01 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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“What we’re talking about here is the 5 percent in the country who currently purchase insurance on the individual market,” Carney said. “And that market has been like the Wild West. It has been under-regulated, it is the place where Americans have most keenly felt the challenges posed by the insurance system in this country.”

The unregulated wild west! Where the elderly could have insurance that didn’t cover maternity care and pediatric! Where teetotalers could have insurance that didn’t cover drug rehab! Oh the humanity!


18 posted on 10/29/2013 5:24:14 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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White House: President didn't mislead on insurance promise

Right out of the Clinton playbook.
1. deny, deny, deny.
2. After a month, say that it is old news and has already been discussed enough and it's time to move on.
3. If called before a legislative committee just say: " at this point what difference does it make?".

19 posted on 10/29/2013 5:25:45 PM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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4. When asked how we got here, “I don’t recall.”


20 posted on 10/29/2013 5:27:29 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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