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Detroit emergency manager says 'cram down' a possibility in bankruptcy case
NBC News ^ | 10/29/13 | Joseph Lichterman

Posted on 10/29/2013 4:20:25 PM PDT by Libloather

Detroit Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr said Tuesday he could force a legally binding settlement on the city's creditors if they were unwilling to accept a proposed restructuring plan in bankruptcy court.

The "cram down" provision of federal bankruptcy law allows a judge to approve a plan of restructuring over the objections of creditors, so long as at least one impaired class of creditors votes to confirm it.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; detroit; emergency; manager
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Why not just go with the fake spike? (This is gonna get ugly.)
1 posted on 10/29/2013 4:20:25 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Let us this happens after Halloween, just sayin’....


2 posted on 10/29/2013 4:24:50 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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cram down would be on businesses that worked with the city, not the unions....I’m sure the last bunch of Detroit taxpayers will still be on the hook for long ago retired cops, firemen, etc....


3 posted on 10/29/2013 4:27:50 PM PDT by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: Libloather

He’ll have to get a “judge” to agree to it, and that’s not a sure thing lately in that District.


4 posted on 10/29/2013 4:29:27 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Libloather

Remember, it’s not Liberalism we should blame but the actual Liberals themselves that did this. They are culpable. They have ruined lives. I want my money back. I want retribution.


5 posted on 10/29/2013 4:31:18 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Libloather

So I guess defaulting on your debts is okay with Democrats now? During the Shutnado, that was supposed to be a disaster.


6 posted on 10/29/2013 4:33:49 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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No more OK than continuing to loan money to a city that would never pay it back with every intention that the taxpayers would pick up the tab in the end.

Nobody is innocent in Detroit.


7 posted on 10/29/2013 4:42:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Libloather

cram down is used to deal with creditors who simply want to be annoying to get a prefered deal.

This is just sloppy journalism.


8 posted on 10/29/2013 4:46:31 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: sportutegrl

Interesting article from June:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/03/detroit-asset-sales-financial-woes/2384525/

Detroit’s treasure trove could be vulnerable to sale(6/3/13 USA Today)
It starts listing assets and begins with this:

DETROIT — A healthy, breeding female giraffe from the Detroit Zoo could fetch $80,000 on the open market.
Detroit’s half of the Detroit-Windsor Tunnel was valued a few years ago at $65 million.
(Link USA Today)

Sell all assets!


10 posted on 10/29/2013 4:49:13 PM PDT by Mark (DONATE to FR Now!)
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.I’m sure the last bunch of Detroit taxpayers will still be on the hook for long ago retired cops, firemen, etc...

Pensions will be getting sixteen cents on the dollar.

11 posted on 10/29/2013 4:50:29 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Libloather

This is definitely a show worth popping up a few batches of popcorn. So even if the unions and pension funds “win” and there’s no formal bankruptcy, then what? They sue Detroit? What will that get them? Nothing? The keys to a bankrupt city?

It’s not like Detroit can suddenly print its own money to pay its billions in outstanding obligations if they are denied the right to proceed with the bankruptcy. And they’ve already entered the taxation death spiral, where raising rates brings in less money.

I guess the lawyers will get a bunch of money, but that’s about it. Like i said, popcorn. And lots of it.


12 posted on 10/29/2013 4:53:31 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

16 cents on the dollar sounds about right to me. These “public” workers voted for these politicians for decades. Now let them reap the fruits of those votes. I don’t care if they starve.


13 posted on 10/29/2013 4:55:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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I would rather have the politicians in jail. It is the same thing all over the country, cities and counties hiring people with benefits packages they knew they couldn't support when it came time to collect. I don't blame the bus drivers for accepting a job offer and the benefits package. They can't be expected to figure out the long term finances of the city. But city accountants, actuaries, human resources, and elected officials, should be held accountable, to the point of jail, for fraud. They extracted years of work out of employees for promises they knew they would never pay when it came time.
14 posted on 10/29/2013 5:01:28 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

I’m with you. The union members aren’t innocent but they aren’t nearly as guilty as those who knowingly made unsustainable offers.

People get their jollies laughing at Detroit but they’re only whistling past the graveyard and will be horrified at bills coming due elsewhere that make Detroit’s $20 billion look like chump change.


15 posted on 10/29/2013 5:13:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I’d love to see a few political types swinging from lamp posts over this, but you can’t absolve the workers. If a guy is too stupid to do some basic math he shouldn’t be driving a bus, carrying a gun and a badge, working ont the water supply, or even picking up my trash.

Nope, the blame here is split evenly in my view.


16 posted on 10/29/2013 5:15:08 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Next up, Chicago?


17 posted on 10/29/2013 5:35:45 PM PDT by upchuck (I've got maternity care via Obamacare! Now, if I could just figure out how a male gets pregnant...)
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To: Libloather

how this is legal is a sham.

give one class of creditors a decent payoff, they approve it and the rest get screwed. makes no sense.


18 posted on 10/29/2013 5:36:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: upchuck

Chicago recently got a credit downgrade which effectively makes the debt grow faster. (Some $93 billion if I recall)


19 posted on 10/29/2013 5:39:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’d be more apt to give a creditor a better payout if they cut the cord sooner.

Everybody knew what was coming 20 years ago and the creditors didn’t continue to loan money out of the goodness of their hearts.


20 posted on 10/29/2013 5:43:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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