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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Cruz is eligible to be President because he is a natural born citizen of the United States.

His mother is a citizen.

That's how it works.

9 posted on 10/29/2013 9:11:39 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

Natural Born citizen: Born with full and complete allegiance to the U.S.
BOTH PARENTS U.S. citizens at birth

Native Born citizen: Born with partial allegiance to the U.S.
Born to one parent who was a U.S. citizen at birth

The problem obama, a native(?) born citizen was allowed to bypass Article 2 of the Constitution, is Cruz allowed too also?


27 posted on 10/29/2013 9:30:22 AM PDT by alpha 76
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To: wideawake

That is how it has always worked. Same for the dictator, same for McLame. I have friends from the military who were born in France and the other in Belgium. Both sets of parents were citizens, on foreign soil by way of military orders. It really makes no difference. If you mother goes into labor while visiting in a foreign country it does not automatically make you foreign born. Foreign born has always meant not born in this country and not born to citizen parents. That is why the use of the 14th amendment to validate anchor babies is unconstitutional.


52 posted on 10/29/2013 9:51:28 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: wideawake
wideawake said: "His mother is a citizen. That's how it works. "

So our Founders would have welcomed with open arms the son of the King of England as President as long as the mother was a U.S. citizen?

What value is there in having one citizen parent rather than none? What would be the point?

If the reason for the NBC requirement is to eliminate a chief cause of questionable loyalty, how is that accomplished if one parent is a citizen of a foreign country?

58 posted on 10/29/2013 10:02:10 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: wideawake
Cruz is eligible to be President because he is a natural born citizen of the United States.
His mother is a citizen.
That's how it works.


But only if his mother was physically present in the US for ten years - including five years after age 14 - before his birth.

Has there been a showing that this is the case for Cruz? Look, he's a great candidate and I hope he's eligible, but I still believe the Constitution must apply and every candidate must show eligibility. And just because one president broke the rules doesn't mean we can just throw out the rules forever. If anything, we need to tighten enforcement of the rules so this doesn't happen again.

Here's the actual law:

"A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) of the INA provided the U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.)

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5199.html
63 posted on 10/29/2013 10:12:48 AM PDT by LonelyCon
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To: wideawake

Not according to Minor v. Happersett...

Cruz is eligible because Obama was elected. Argument ends there. If I refute the fact that Obama was not elected then I can refute Cruz is ineligible. I can’t refute that Obama was elected.

The electorate has lowerd the Constitutional bar. Simple.


86 posted on 10/29/2013 10:55:26 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: wideawake

“Cruz is eligible to be President because he is a natural born citizen of the United States.

His mother is a citizen.

That’s how it works.”


You’re correct on the result, but it’s a little more nuanced than that.

Cruz is a natural-born citizen because, pursuant to federal law at the time of his birth, Cruz is a U.S. citizen at birth. When Cruz was born, same as when Obama was born, a child born outside of the U.S. with one U.S. citizen parent and one non-citizen parent would be a U.S. citizen at birth if his U.S. citizen parent had resided in the U.S. for at least 10 years of his or her life, with at least 5 of those years coming after the age of 14. Cruz’s mother easily met such requirement, so Cruz, despite having been born in Canada, was a U.S. citizen at birth and thus a natural-born citizen.

The reason why it was so important for Obama to maintain that he had been born in Hawaii was because, had Obama been born in Kenya (as Obama seemed to have claimed earlier, and as his step-grandmother had indicated in an interview), he would *not* have been a U.S. citizen at birth, since his sole U.S. citizen parent had not resided in the U.S. for at least 5 years after turning 14 (something that would be incontrovertible, since his mother had not yet turned 19 when Obama was born, so she couldn’t have resided anywhere for 5 years after turning 14). Only by having been born in the U.S. (or by having a U.S. citizen for a father) could Obama be a U.S. citizen at birth and thus a natural-born citizen.

So Cruz is a natural-born citizen, even if Democrat claim that he was born in the Moon.


150 posted on 10/29/2013 12:43:15 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what ma kes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: wideawake

That’s it dead on.
His mother is a citizen of the United States.


350 posted on 10/29/2013 7:14:39 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: wideawake

Where in the law is that stated?


599 posted on 10/30/2013 4:44:10 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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