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Is Ted Cruz a natural-born citizen eligible to serve as president? [Yes! And I support him! JimRob]
YAHOO NEWS ^ | 10-29-13 | Sarah Helene Duggin | National Constitution Center

Posted on 10/28/2013 7:19:34 AM PDT by Paul46360

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To: JohnnyP
The best solution would be to amend the Constitution, as many legislators on both sides of the aisle have proposed over the years.

Actually, I'd be fine with an amendment that changed eligibility to anyone who has been a citizen (and not a dual-citizen of any other country) for at least 35 years. Essentially, it makes the minimum age for President 35 + your age at citizenship, which would be 0 for Cruz, but a fair bit more for someone like Schwarzenegger.

141 posted on 10/28/2013 12:13:36 PM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: CodeToad
Thousands upon thousands of US citizens are around the world because of the interpretation of citizenship.

Post WWII babies sired in Europe from visiting US soldiers; birth creates US citizens in Germany, Japan, etc.

Hookers and girlfriends have babies from US men in their third world country are magic US citizen babies. Wonderful.

Passing on citizenship via birth and location is old fashioned. Viva anchor babies!

144 posted on 10/28/2013 12:33:03 PM PDT by Theoria
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You know what this thread needs?

A heaping dose of Parsifal.

And more cowbell.

Pan_Yan, who misses some of the long gone FReepers.


145 posted on 10/28/2013 12:38:10 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Mark Levin on Ted Cruz
147 posted on 10/28/2013 12:47:29 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: TxSynthMan

“Is that why George W (Washington, that is) kept a copy of Vattel on his desk while he was president?”

Use whatever personal reference you want but that doesn’t make it something the rest of us must use. I have a copy of Bloom County on my desk, suppose we use that?

I suppose if a judge in court said, “Well, let’s look at the Law of Nations to figure this trial out”, you would agree?


148 posted on 10/28/2013 12:57:02 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Paul46360
I know it is early but I'm 100% behind Ted Cruz.

I pray that we can primary out McShame. And here is my prediction, if we successfully primary out McShame, he will pull a Charlie Crist and jump on the Dem bandwagon.

149 posted on 10/28/2013 12:59:56 PM PDT by hockeyfan44 (No more RINOS!!!)
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To: Theoria

“Hookers and girlfriends have babies from US men in their third world country are magic US citizen babies.”

I think you’re reading a bit too much urban legend. A hooker in Vietnam having a baby from a US soldier did not give birth to a US citizen. many were granted a visa, but not citizenship.


150 posted on 10/28/2013 1:00:11 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: helpfulresearcher

“It’s the only definition of NBC we have. “

You have the Webster’s Dictionary. It is no harder than that. Look up the word ‘natural’. Vattel is not the law of the US and never was.


151 posted on 10/28/2013 1:01:47 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad

Nonsense. All ya need is a CRBA. Magic, you become a citizen from a fling.


152 posted on 10/28/2013 1:09:47 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

There is more to it than that.


153 posted on 10/28/2013 1:21:34 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: GeorgeTex

In that case Chester Arthur didn’t make the cut either (father wasn’t a citizen at the time of his birth)


154 posted on 10/28/2013 2:11:54 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Paul46360

A “natural born citizen” is automatically an “American citizen at birth”, but an “American citizen at birth” is not automatically a “natural born citizen.”

The bar - “natural born citizen” - was set higher than “citizen at birth”, set by our Constitution, and the distinction is simply:

*having in both roots, proven loyalty to the USA at birth.*

That proven loyalty is conveyed by having loyal American citizen parents (plural - father is male and mother is female), which includes their determination to make a home here in U.S. territory.

The existence of the words within our Constitution, was to emphasize that loyalty. That was the first reason for including the words.


155 posted on 10/28/2013 3:01:18 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: silentreignofheroes

I find it very disturbing that I am that much older then Ted Cruz.


156 posted on 10/28/2013 3:10:48 PM PDT by defconw
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To: CodeToad

Webster’s Dictionary was first published in 1825, so would not have been of use to the Founders. Samuel Johnson published the first English language dictionary in 1750, but it was British. Yes, Cawdrey had his earlier Table Alphabeticall, but it was a listing of words without definitions.


157 posted on 10/28/2013 3:22:09 PM PDT by Lisbon1940
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To: GeorgeTex

George Romney, father of Mittens, was born AND lived in Mexico, he was a Mexican citizen. Juan McAmesty was born in the Canal Zone.

Lastly, the Kenyan kid’s kid father was born in Kenya, with a 99% certainty that’s where the human teleprompter was born,
inspite of all-knowing-one Bill O’Reilly being “absolutely certain” the Kenyan was born in Hawaii, and all “birthers” are extreme right-wing fanatics that hate the Kenyan and will not believe anything good about him.


158 posted on 10/28/2013 4:24:56 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Lisbon1940

Don’t care. You point wasn’t even an issue. What does Webster say the word ‘natural’ means? It hasn’t changed. Are you a computer programmer by chance? I mean, it takes that level of nerdom to have no reading comprehension and no social skills as to offer facts not even important to the discussion.


159 posted on 10/28/2013 4:30:10 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Paul46360

I believe Cruz is, I believe Obama is but is one of the corner cases.

But Arnold is not, Arnold is the epitome of *not* a natural born citizen.


160 posted on 10/28/2013 4:59:10 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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